Speed Increases 1st June - 2meg to 4meg - Page 50

grubbymitts · 06-06-2006, 12:01

Let me be the first to start the inevitable "Will NTL swap my 120 modem?" discussion. How dare they not update the 120 modems? If I spill tea on it will this get me a teryon 250? NTL YOU WAZZOCKS SORT IT OUT!!!!11!!eleventy1

I have a 120 modem, and so do a hell of a lot of other NTL broadband subscribers. The 120s were a pain in the backside to upgrade to 10mb, so it's obvious that NTL will check that the 4mb config file works flawlessly

before deploying it to such a huge user base. Have patience, it will come.

mcmanic · 06-06-2006, 12:46

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Originally Posted by grubbymitts

Let me be the first to start the inevitable "Will NTL swap my 120 modem?" discussion. How dare they not update the 120 modems? If I spill tea on it will this get me a teryon 250? NTL YOU WAZZOCKS SORT IT OUT!!!!11!!eleventy1

I have a 120 modem, and so do a hell of a lot of other NTL broadband subscribers. The 120s were a pain in the backside to upgrade to 10mb, so it's obvious that NTL will check that the 4mb config file works flawlessly

before deploying it to such a huge user base. Have patience, it will come.

yeah just like they tested it before on the 10meg (003 firmware) then it took 2 weeks of us complaining to them that it borked the NTL120 modems and then saying no its fine before someone with half a brain said yes its the firmware and rolled it back to 002.

strange why Brighton is so late on the rollout list if CS is correct in saying the 22nd, usually its one of the 1st area's. Anyway i'm not bothered this time, 2meg unlimited suits me, i'll wait for 4meg unlimited when it gets to me and if it borks the 120's again like the 10meg upgrade then i'd rather it had a accident this time and get a new modem, after all i'm only renting it -if its not fit for the purpose and they wish for me to continue paying for their service they will soon swap it over asap

popper · 06-06-2006, 12:51

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Originally Posted by spectra

Bouncing like a mofo

Tue, 06 Jun 2006 10:09:38 GMT

1st 512K took 625 ms = 819.2 KB/sec, approx 6750 Kbps, 6.59 Mbps
2nd 512K took 515 ms = 994.2 KB/sec, approx 8192 Kbps, 8 Mbps
3rd 512K took 219 ms = 2337.9 KB/sec, approx 19264 Kbps, 18.81 Mbps

4th 512K took 172 ms = 2976.7 KB/sec, approx 24528 Kbps, 23.95 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 14684 Kbps, 14.34 Mbps

thats interesting, obvously its not right, and they may have been playing around with their kit, but that 23.95 Mbps implys that the modem and the ubr can do around 25.Mbps today, i assume you have an ntl 250.

i wonder what the max real upload rate would have been.

banjo · 06-06-2006, 12:58

So what number do I ring to get my 100 modem swapped out for free ? I am not going to pay for it !!

etccarmageddon · 06-06-2006, 13:04

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Originally Posted by Martyn

i remember seeing 50:1 some where i will look around on there site.

http://www.ntl.com/mediacentre/theco...faq/?section=3

"Q. I've heard that contention ratios differ between cable and ADSL broadband. Can you explain?
A. Yes. We have engineered our local access network to provide a 20:1 contention ratio in comparison to a number of ADSL providers who have contention ratios as high as 50:1. The "contention ratio" is the number of customers that share one unit of data capacity, meaning the lower the contention ratio the higher the quality of the local access network."

James Henry · 06-06-2006, 13:35

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

http://www.ntl.com/mediacentre/theco...faq/?section=3

"Q. I've heard that contention ratios differ between cable and ADSL broadband. Can you explain?
A. Yes. We have engineered our local access network to provide a 20:1 contention ratio in comparison to a number of ADSL providers who have contention ratios as high as 50:1. The "contention ratio" is the number of customers that share one unit of data capacity, meaning the lower the contention ratio the higher the quality of the local access network."

Bullsh**.

Although it does have the claim:

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Q. Where there's a choice between ntl Broadband and ADSL how many take your service?
A. A. We estimate approximately 3 out of 4 customers chose ntl Broadband over ADSL, where ntl is available.

To keep it company, although that could easily be spun to be claiming that 3 out of 4 customers who already have ntl choose their broadband over ADSL.

Cable covers a bit under 50% of population so if it's outselling DSL 3:1 in its' own areas
it should have about 60% of the total connections DSL has (3:1 + 0:4 = 3:5 = 60%). Considering that ADSL is used by over 8 million people cable should in that case have 4.8 million broadband users. I'm fairly sure it doesn't, I find 2:2 + 0:4 = 2:6 = 33% or about 2.66 million to 8 million far more realistic considering the just under 50% where coverage of both overlaps.

etccarmageddon · 06-06-2006, 13:38

I tend to suspect it is bull as I'm on the (upto) 10meg tier but am getting only (upto) 7meg.

James Henry · 06-06-2006, 13:45

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

I tend to suspect it is bull as I'm on the (upto) 10meg tier but am getting only (upto) 7meg.

Each card gives 27 or 38Mbit in Langley areas. 200 4Mbit customers will break the 20:1 on a 38Mbit card, that doesn't include the 1Mbit or 10Mbit users.

They will contend as high as they can like everyone else. Anyway slightly offtopic - contention shouldn't matter a jot so long as performance is alright.

etccarmageddon · 06-06-2006, 14:00

I just dont believe the speed increase of the top tier from 3 to 10meg and the new increase of the middle tier from 2 to 4meg have been matched by equal amounts of extra kit in the UBRs.

06-06-2006, 14:05

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Originally Posted by banjo

So what number do I ring to get my 100 modem swapped out for free ? I am not going to pay for it !!

You don't get it swapped unless its defective which would need to be clarified by Tech Support

banjo · 06-06-2006, 14:11

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Originally Posted by turbulentone

You don't get it swapped unless its defective which would need to be clarified by Tech Support

Thank you

for your reply.

ikthius · 06-06-2006, 14:11

so does anyone know when the NTLHome 100 & 120's are being upgraded?

ik

etccarmageddon · 06-06-2006, 14:12

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Originally Posted by turbulentone

You don't get it swapped unless its defective which would need to be clarified by Tech Support

I wouldn't envy anyone trying to convince tech support that their modem is defective.

chrisjones · 06-06-2006, 14:38

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

I wouldn't envy anyone trying to convince tech support that their modem is defective.

Ive heard they dont take too well to Fish Tanks....

Druchii · 06-06-2006, 14:43

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Originally Posted by chrisjones

Ive heard they dont take too well to Fish Tanks....

*winks* I err... Accidentally, er... nudged mine when i was cleaning the tank out...