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Old 20-12-2024, 21:34   #736
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Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

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Why’s he dangerous?
Ian said because Musk is backing the AfD.
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You know, the AfD, those nice folk who think that the Nazi's weren't all that bad.

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Old 20-12-2024, 23:23   #737
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Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

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By a vote of 366-34 with one lawmaker voting present, the House has overwhelmingly passed a bill that averts a government shutdown hours before the government runs out of funding.

Speaker Mike Johnson (R-Louisiana) said earlier Friday that the new spending plan does not include President-elect Donald Trump’s demand to suspend the debt limit.

The legislation would extend current fiscal levels until mid-March, provide $110 billion in relief to help natural-disaster survivors and aid farmers, and grant an extension for the farm bill, which must be reauthorized. The bill now goes to the Senate.
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Old 20-12-2024, 23:48   #738
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Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

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Ian said because Musk is backing the AfD.
and for so many other reasons
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Old 21-12-2024, 08:53   #739
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Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

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Ian said because Musk is backing the AfD.
Because Ian said so……….ok.
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Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

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Because Ian said so……….ok.
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Old 21-12-2024, 09:07   #741
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Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

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Because Ian said so……….ok.
Wrong way round but well done trying to swerve the issue.
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Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

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Because Musk said so…

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Elon Musk is backing the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD), triggering an outcry in Berlin in the run-up to a critical snap election.

“Only the AfD can save Germany,” the billionaire X owner wrote on the platform on Friday in the latest of a series of endorsements of European far-right parties.
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Old 21-12-2024, 09:53   #743
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Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

The irony about Musk is that he made his money from electric cars and he's supporting a President who's not wholly aligned to this agenda.

That's one potential piece of friction between them once Trump is in power. And is there space in the limelight for two egos? I'm dubious. And how long can Trump just accept orders over Twitter without wondering whether he's the monkey and not the organ-grinder?
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Old 21-12-2024, 10:06   #744
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Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

Trump is not a politician and he certainly isn’t an ideologue. Trump believes in what’s good for Trump. Tesla cars will not be any kind of stumbling block to him.

As for the rest of it, nothing we observed during the election campaign has changed. He is in cognitive decline. For the next 4 years America will be run by whoever has stroked Trump’s ego well enough to get close to him, and likely by several such people simultaneously, fighting like cats in a sack.

He may have a moment of lucidity from time to time and sack people he decides he doesn’t like/need any more, but don’t confuse that with a strong, focused policy agenda.
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Thank you chris .... I didnt think anyone knew that!!

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Old 21-12-2024, 11:26   #746
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Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

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The rise of the right, across Europe and beyond, has got the square root of sod all to do with Musk, maybe minds should be focused on that rather Musk.

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He is in cognitive decline.
Fake news Chris, I don’t think anyone’s buying that.

He did several long form interviews, with no prepared questions or answers.

He just gave a press conference, again answering on the fly.

He was/is more cogent than Harris ever was.
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Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

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The rise of the right, across Europe and beyond, has got the square root of sod all to do with Musk, maybe minds should be focused on that rather Musk.
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A bit like the 1930s where fascists were popping up everywhere. They had Oswald Mosley, we have Farage. If Trump grows a neat moustache we know where we're heading. Beware what you vote for.
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Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

So a declining Trump will surround himself with dangerous fools. Nothing to see here then ...

In a sad irony, when Musk is declaring his love for the AfD, a supporter of said hard-Right AfD kill 4 people and injures many more. It just shows that you should never pander to the far right or far left or attempt to normalise them.
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So a declining Trump will surround himself with dangerous fools. Nothing to see here then ...

In a sad irony, when Musk is declaring his love for the AfD, a supporter of said hard-Right AfD kill 4 people and injures many more. It just shows that you should never pander to the far right or far left or attempt to normalise them.
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Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term

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Fake news Chris, I don’t think anyone’s buying that.

He did several long form interviews, with no prepared questions or answers.

He just gave a press conference, again answering on the fly.

He was/is more cogent than Harris ever was.
Whereas he gave an endless series of rambling, off-topic presentations throughout his election campaign. Sharks, EV batteries, immigrants eating people’s pets, Hannibal Lecter. Nothing fake about any of that (and why would you believe nobody’s buying the idea? The electoral college flatters him - he didn’t even get half the votes).

Direct questioning helps keep his addled thought processes on-topic. Set him loose and he can’t cope.

I get that he got more votes than Harris and won on both popular and college terms, but Harris’s unpopularity has nothing to do with cogency. The Dems’ social policy programme is absolutely toxic, and the extent of that is only becoming apparent in the post-election fallout.
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