ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase

[Scopeuk]

after roll out as hapens any time people get any thing new it will be tested and the external pipes and ubrs will be punished. but like you said above with the 10mb package being capped its gonna calm down eventually. letting the contention ratios go is a hidden problem you can have 10 mbit but only when only 3 of you are usign there connections locally. ( numbers may be wrogn i seam to remembre 27 mb avaliabel at street cabinets can any one confirm/deny this)

[shy_one]

Originally Posted by Bill C

Glad to see some can talk sensibly instead of jumping on this announcement like its the end for Ntl. I will eat my hat if this is available in my area before i get 10 meg from NTL.

Since your signature states that you work for NTL, you will probably get your 10 meg before anyone else on NTL broadband gets it.

Since I am on 1 meg, I will have to wait until next year.

Michael

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Originally Posted by shy_one

Since your signature states that you work for NTL, you will probably get your 10 meg before anyone else on NTL broadband gets it.

Since I am on 1 meg, I will have to wait until next year.

Michael

Yet another cheap shot from someone who is disgruntled. He will get his 10meg because he will be on a 3meg service, or not as may be his case. I want 10meg early as is my preference, so i upgraded to 3meg. The choice is there.

[Nikko]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

almost, NTL have chosen not to broadband up some of their areas they consider not financially viable.

End of the day there is good and bad things about each situation.

ukonline will probably initially only have 24mbit in london and then eventually rollout to all of its llu exchanges, 24mbit will probably only be possible when you are under 2km to the exchange and using the right server's to download off, it is much more a PR thing then anything else.

Likewise on NTL they are promoting their 10mbit to get their sales, but in the meantime they are pushing up their contention ratios and their external pipes get congested also making 10mbit a hard target to reach, the advantage with ntl of course distance is much less a factor, just providing you get lucky on the postcode lottery and have a good ubr and you dont use usa sites you have a good chance of using your full 10mbit. The uncapped service will probably be lower speeds anyway so the only users on the 10mbit will be low to medium users making it much more less likely it will be pushed.

I have hinted before about how much your ongoing ill informed conjecture really begins to become very irritating. You make sweeping statements of pure rubbish and pass them off as factual. Please desist.

From your numerous posts, you live in an area of LE that was originally cabled to a level that is not compatible with some of the current ntl high spec offerings.

Fine. Just maybe this is being worked on. Meantime, please spare us your considered opinion of what ntl may or may not be planning/doing/not doing/spending. I have hedged around your vexatious outpourings before - but - finally - please desist from posting rubbish with a negative slant. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Nikko

I have hinted before about how much your ongoing ill informed conjecture really begins to become very irritating. You make sweeping statements of pure rubbish and pass them off as factual. Please desist.

From your numerous posts, you live in an area of LE that was originally cabled to a level that is not compatible with some of the current ntl high spec offerings.

Fine. Just maybe this is being worked on. Meantime, please spare us your considered opinion of what ntl may or may not be planning/doing/not doing/spending. I have hedged around your vexatious outpourings before - but - finally - please desist from posting rubbish with a negative slant. Thanks.

*laughs* and *claps*

Predicting that we won't get 10megs. Calling it a postcode lottery when reports from NTL state 95% of people are with 2k was it? (Please correct those figures if they are wrong, they are just the best of my recollection), how is that a lottery? I could go on but i won't cos i have to go to bed and it's not worth correcting the statement

Looking at this thread - Please can we try to avoid personal & inflammatory remarks. Thanks.

Originally Posted by gruff_rhodes

Yet another cheap shot from someone who is disgruntled. He will get his 10meg because he will be on a 3meg service, or not as may be his case. I want 10meg early as is my preference, so i upgraded to 3meg. The choice is there.

And there you go. Someone that will look at a post and read the correct answer from it. . Yes i am on 3meg so i will be one of the first to benefit from the upgrades when they happen. You are correct it does seem to be cheap shot hunting season at the moment. The last cheap shot before this does not even have the guts to answer his verbal diarrhea. Instead he will come out from under his bridge whenever there is need of some anti NTL verbal diarrhea.

For gods sake people this is a grownups forum not the school yard.

[slowcoach]

Why shouldn't 3Mbs customers be first with 10Mbs, relatively speaking we pay over the odds for our service compared to the other tiers, there is nothing to stop anyone else upgrading to the top tier now in order to be in the group getting 10Mbs first. 3Mbs customers are obviously more profitable to ntl so they are just trying to keep us happy.

Talking of happy, personally I have found ntl excellent from the day they arrived to install the service, 8 am prompt, no mess to clear up after, setup and running in minutes after they had gone, perfic.

I have only called CS 2 times but got through immediately both times, the associates I spoke to were knowledgeable and helpful, I thought there had been a glitch in the billing but it was just the e-mail billing information which was incorrect one month, the actual DD was done correctly.

Reliability of services has been excellent, the only time that there has been a slight hiccup was when upgrades were being done, which is to be expected.

I was happy paying 37.99 for 1.5Mbs but it looks like I will be on 10Mbs within 13 months of signing up, for the same price, can't be bad.

I have gone over the daily soft cap when I was trying various Linux distros, but usually I would assume I am normally well within the limits, although I have never really felt the need to check.

I have never regretted moving from ADSL, in fact I just wish I had done it years ago. The only thing that put me off for so long was all the horror stories I read on the Internet about ntl. Someone told me at the time †œIf you can get Cable, get Cableââ‚ƚ¬Ã‚ÂÂÂ�, good advice as it turned out.

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Originally Posted by slowcoach

Why shouldn't 3Mbs customers be first with 10Mbs, relatively speaking we pay over the odds for our service compared to the other tiers, there is nothing to stop anyone else upgrading to the top tier now in order to be in the group getting 10Mbs first. 3Mbs customers are obviously more profitable to ntl so they are just trying to keep us happy.

Talking of happy, personally I have found ntl excellent from the day they arrived to install the service, 8 am prompt, no mess to clear up after, setup and running in minutes after they had gone, perfic.

I have only called CS 2 times but got through immediately both times, the associates I spoke to were knowledgeable and helpful, I thought there had been a glitch in the billing but it was just the e-mail billing information which was incorrect one month, the actual DD was done correctly.

Reliability of services has been excellent, the only time that there has been a slight hiccup was when upgrades were being done, which is to be expected.

I was happy paying 37.99 for 1.5Mbs but it looks like I will be on 10Mbs within 13 months of signing up, for the same price, can't be bad.

I have gone over the daily soft cap when I was trying various Linux distros, but usually I would assume I am normally well within the limits, although I have never really felt the need to check.

I have never regretted moving from ADSL, in fact I just wish I had done it years ago. The only thing that put me off for so long was all the horror stories I read on the Internet about ntl. Someone told me at the time †œIf you can get Cable, get Cableââ‚ƚ¬Ã‚ÂÂÂ�, good advice as it turned out.

*more appreciative claps* My experience of NTL has been almost identical to yours, and whilst i am no fan of NTL i appreciate they are pushing forward. If you speak to my work colleagues living in my area who can't get NTL, they are so, so jealous of the 10mb i will be getting. One colleague is on 1mb (with Zen i think) and his ISP has said that there is no plans to increase this speed at all. Lets deal in realism. NTL push forward with speeds they are able to and are releastic for millions of customers, not a few thousand. Do people really think NTL can just go and say lets do a 24 meg service when all of their customers might not be able to get it? Something has to be delivered that all can receive.

[Griffin]

Can't understand why everyone is moaning about uk online & be etc touting 24mb broadband. I can recall seeing somewhere that NTL & Telewest have the ability if they want to to get to 50mb on cable. Also with NTL being pledged to beating any offer that BT roll out, BT are stating they will compete with the LLU isp's when the number of unbundled lines hit 1.5 million. NTL are by far the best isp to be with.

[Stuart]

I don't think anyone is moaning about 24 meg adsl as such, more that it will be available to so few people.

[Mike]

Sorry to ask and OK I will be shot down in flames but I am in Oxfordshire............when will we get 10 mb and do we need to do anything !

Thanks

Mike

[grubbymitts]

Everybody is complaining about the 75gb cap not being enough and that UK Online are offering unlimited on 8mb. NTL will be fully aware of this and know that people will emigrate to the "other side" and will, undoubtedly, raise their cap limit when they start losing customers.Just because something is announced doesn't mean it's written in stone. NTL would be shooting themselves in the foot if they stuck to their guns and kept to the 75gb cap. Expect a change of policy where 10mb gets 300 - 500gb and other speeds (I think they will still keep the 1mb, 2mb options) will be unlimited (subject to the usual congestion rules etc). This will encourage all those who want to download HD content from NTL (and pay extra maybe) to go for the 10mb and all other who want to surf and play games (and download thirty linux distros a month ) can stick with their slower speeds. Me, personally, I would rather stay with 2mb and be unlimited. It's fast enough for what I want to do.

And when they say "Downloading 500gb severly cocks up the network for others" you know that what they really mean is "Of course we can handle that kind of usage - we'd be the laughing stock of the ISP market if we couldn't - we just want you to pay more for the privelage."

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Mike

Sorry to ask and OK I will be shot down in flames but I am in Oxfordshire............when will we get 10 mb and do we need to do anything !

Thanks

Mike

You won't be shot down in flames..

In short, the answer to your questions are: It'll happen when it happens, and you won't need to do anything (although you will get it quicker if you are on the 3 Meg connection).

Basically, NTL tend not to release dates when they are upgrading areas because they want some leeway in the event of problems (for instance, if they promised the upgrade by a certain date, then, due to circumstances beyond their control, missed that date, people would complain).

I believe that any staff members who do know the dates have non-disclosure clauses in their contracts. Could be wrong though.

[enjoymarcus]

In all honesty, i think 10mb is more than enough to accomadate the british public for at least the next 5 years. I think this whole speed increase thing is just a p*ssing contest between ISPs now. And the fact that some are introducing caps emphasises that the speed is just a marketing tool, and most ISPs could not actually sustain that level of speed 24/7.

Its kind of like owning a really nice villa, that you can only use for 1 month of each year

Not that im complaing, Bill C