27-05-2017, 13:53
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Re: June 8th General Election
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boom and bust economics
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Terminating with the biggest bust of all, which we're all still paying for and is costing billions in interest payments which ought to be being spent elsewhere on the services we all want. Cheers Labour.
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27-05-2017, 15:02
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Terminating with the biggest bust of all, which we're all still paying for and is costing billions in interest payments which ought to be being spent elsewhere on the services we all want. Cheers Labour.
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I don't think Labour caused the Global Financial Crisis.
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He's got Labour about right, but I think he must have skipped a few pages of Theresa's manifesto. Did he miss the bit about social care, which is radical enough to give half of the elderly premature heart attacks?
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The social care element has been u-turned out of the manifesto hasn't it?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b03b485cb2cd9b
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27-05-2017, 15:18
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Re: June 8th General Election
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No, it hasn't.
From your link
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The prime minister announced that a cap on social care costs will now be included as an option in a consultation on reforms to be launched after the General Election
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27-05-2017, 15:28
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Terminating with the biggest bust of all, which we're all still paying for and is costing billions in interest payments which ought to be being spent elsewhere on the services we all want. Cheers Labour.
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em more tory lies when did American bankers join the Labour party like they ones that cause the 2008 crash FFS and who got us in biggest debt ever 1.7 trillion and still going up like
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27-05-2017, 16:08
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Re: June 8th General Election
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I don't think Labour caused the Global Financial Crisis.
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True, but had they not reduced the economy to the state of chronic indebtedness, we would have been able to weather the storm far better than we were able to.
Fix the roof while the sun shines? Labour's attitude is if it ain't raining, don't fix it.
And this is where that gets us.
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27-05-2017, 16:35
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Re: June 8th General Election
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em more tory lies when did American bankers join the Labour party like they ones that cause the 2008 crash FFS and who got us in biggest debt ever 1.7 trillion and still going up like
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I see, Tory lies eh? American bankers were running BOS and RBS were they? They were also regulating the City of London via the BoE and FSA and Gordon Brown wasn't the Chancellor at the time and for the decade preceding. It was all nothing to do with Labour in spite of Brown incessantly telling us how prudent he'd been since 1997 when in fact he'd been ignoring all the warning signs...
Yeah you're quite right it was all the Tories' fault when they'd been out of office for a decade.
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True, but had they not reduced the economy to the state of chronic indebtedness, we would have been able to weather the storm far better than we were able to.
Fix the roof while the sun shines? Labour's attitude is if it ain't raining, don't fix it.
And this is where that gets us.
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Yep, too busy spending money and buying votes to want to admit what was going seriously wrong. Brown was warned about the perilous banking situation and did nothing because of the political importance of the 2 major Scottish banks which were at the centre of the problems in the UK.
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And after decades of obfuscation and denial about the crimes of the IRA, Corbyn suddenly manages to condemn the IRA bombing campaign.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40069744
Very sincere I must say and nothing to do with being made to look like a total hypocrite by Andrew Neil.
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27-05-2017, 17:48
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Re: June 8th General Election
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I see, Tory lies eh? American bankers were running BOS and RBS were they? They were also regulating the City of London via the BoE and FSA and Gordon Brown wasn't the Chancellor at the time and for the decade preceding. It was all nothing to do with Labour in spite of Brown incessantly telling us how prudent he'd been since 1997 when in fact he'd been ignoring all the warning signs...
Yeah you're quite right it was all the Tories' fault when they'd been out of office for a decade.
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Yep, too busy spending money and buying votes to want to admit what was going seriously wrong. Brown was warned about the perilous banking situation and did nothing because of the political importance of the 2 major Scottish banks which were at the centre of the problems in the UK.
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And after decades of obfuscation and denial about the crimes of the IRA, Corbyn suddenly manages to condemn the IRA bombing campaign.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40069744
Very sincere I must say and nothing to do with being made to look like a total hypocrite by Andrew Neil.
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the global crash crisis was started in America Fact so ask again when they American bankers join Labour and who put debt to 1.7 Trillion yes Trillion and still going up. another question which party at time said the banks were too regulated wasn't Labour to give you a clue
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27-05-2017, 17:52
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Re: June 8th General Election
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[/COLOR]And after decades of obfuscation and denial about the crimes of the IRA, Corbyn suddenly manages to condemn the IRA bombing campaign.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40069744
Very sincere I must say and nothing to do with being made to look like a total hypocrite by Andrew Neil.
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So Corbyn does a u-turn! So in the May v Corbyn contest, that's 1-1 then. May adds 5% points to her electoral advantage, then!
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27-05-2017, 17:57
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Re: June 8th General Election
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em more tory lies when did American bankers join the Labour party like they ones that cause the 2008 crash FFS and who got us in biggest debt ever 1.7 trillion and still going up like
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To be perfectly honest both parties are full of lies and deceit Dave unless one has their rose tinted glasses on but a choice has to be made soon whether one likes it or not on June the 8th but don't expect things to improve no matter who gets in as one could be very disappointed else if they expect a paradise of roses.
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27-05-2017, 17:59
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Re: June 8th General Election
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the global crash crisis was started in America Fact so ask again when they American bankers join Labour and who put debt to 1.7 Trillion yes Trillion and still going up. another question which party at time said the banks were too regulated wasn't Labour to give you a clue
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Labour didn't cause the worldwide economic crash, it was their economic mismanagement that caused this country to get into such difficulty.
The reason for our debt increasing is that the deficit created by Labour has not yet been cleared. That's because the Conservatives have eased up on the throttle of austerity. Would you prefer that they hadn't done this?
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27-05-2017, 18:04
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Re: June 8th General Election
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To be perfectly honest both parties are full of lies and deceit Dave unless one has their rose tinted glasses on but a choice has to be made soon whether one likes it or not on June the 8th but don't expect things to improve no matter who gets in as one could be very disappointed else if they expect a paradise of roses.
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yes both parties tell lies that so true Den
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Labour didn't cause the worldwide economic crash, it was their economic mismanagement that caused this country to get into such difficulty.
The reason for our debt increasing is that the deficit created by Labour has not yet been cleared. That's because the Conservatives have eased up on the throttle of austerity. Would you prefer that they hadn't done this?
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you don't take it out on the poorest people that had nothing to do with the crash like tories have for a start they wanted to give bankers much bigger bonuses to EU stopped them.
The Tories are and always will be the very nasty party
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27-05-2017, 18:08
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Re: June 8th General Election
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yes both parties tell lies that so true Den
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you don't take it out on the poorest people that had nothing to do with the crash like tories have for a start they wanted to give bankers much bigger bonuses to EU stopped them.
The Tories are and always will be the very nasty party
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What are you talking about? Which party is it who've taken the lowest earners out of paying income tax altogether?
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27-05-2017, 18:12
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What are you talking about? Which party is it who've taken the lowest earners out of paying income tax altogether?
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which party give the biggest tax cut to the riches
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27-05-2017, 18:13
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Re: June 8th General Election
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]the global crash crisis was started in America Fact[/B] so ask again when they American bankers join Labour and who put debt to 1.7 Trillion yes Trillion and still going up. another question which party at time said the banks were too regulated wasn't Labour to give you a clue
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So you keep saying and what did Messrs Brown and Bliar do about it? Notice you have nothing to say about the UK banks and regulatory deficiencies which happened on Labour's watch. They were running the show in the UK for well over a decade and they let the banks here run out of control, not the Americans or the Tories. You can say what you like but those are the facts about why the UK suffered so badly. What exactly did Brown do to curb what was going on in all those years leading up to the crisis? It didn't happen overnight. He was too busy spending the tax revenue the banks were handing him and doling out knighthoods to those awful bankers to care where it was coming from and he ignored all the warnings which were coming from within the affected institutions. Labour and Brown were to blame for that, nobody else.
The truth is that had the Tories been in power between 1997-2010 and let all that happen on their watch you'd be the first one on here blaming them for it all. Remind us all who knighted Sir Fred Goodwin and what did that have to do with America or the Tories?...
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27-05-2017, 18:42
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Re: June 8th General Election
Just wish it was all over all we get is the parties running each other down and telling lies and saying how wonderful they are, As long as the SNP lose a lot of seats or get wiped out I will be quite happy,
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