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Undisputedtruth · 06-07-2003, 17:47

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Originally posted by binary

I don't think the London broadband conversation has been done to death for reasons I'm about to explain.
My understanding of the London broadband issue is this:

I fully agree - the subject was getting embarrassing for NTL. There was some determination from the mods to close the long running thread.

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(a)he Videotron network, as originally constructed, was of poor quality, and much of it is not in a fit state to support broadband. Additionally subsequent maintenance to it has been lacklustre.

If that is the case - then why is bb being rolled in one of Videotron's oldest part of the network?

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(c) I have read a few times that there are plans to upgrade the London network to carry broadband, though this is always very vague.

What I would like from an informed source is a straight answer on whether some areas in London will not be getting broadband for years because of the dodgy network.

Then we will know for sure, and can stop moaning here about the wait for NTL broadband.

I guess this is NTL's way of confusing their customers in London. This has backfired in NTL's face. This has enhanced NTL reputation as a company full of spin, deception and a joke.

Mark W · 06-07-2003, 18:00

just to let you know, ill not be posting in this thread again.

if i get confirmed info, like those new postcode areas getting bb, then ill be sure to let you all know as soon as i do, but i refuse to enter into a conversation with someone who dismisses what he hears out of hand if it does not conform to his personal mindset. I tried, and failed, in the past to give a reasoned explination as i could giving the facts that i have only to be belittled for it.

ill not be making the same mistake twice.

oh, and for what it is worth, i fully agree that ntl sould give a clearer idea what areas will, might and wont be getting bb in the near,middle and distant future. however, i draw a line at it being a 'conspiracy'

binary · 06-07-2003, 18:16

Hi Mark W- I hope I'm not the one to whom your fire is directed at!

I think I must have missed some of the past explainations as to why areas in London havn't yet got broadband.

There is of course no conspiracy!

I, for one, will appreciate any further posts giving further postcodes, that's most helpful.

binary

P.S. Undisputedtruth- watch out for doing double postings, it's most confusing. And even more confusing if you were to delete one of them now, as any subsequent replies will dissapear (so pls don't delete either of them).

Undisputedtruth · 06-07-2003, 18:20

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Originally posted by Mark W

if i get confirmed info, like those new postcode areas getting bb, then ill be sure to let you all know as soon as i do, but i refuse to enter into a conversation with someone who dismisses what he hears out of hand if it does not conform to his personal mindset. I tried, and failed, in the past to give a reasoned explination as i could giving the facts that i have only to be belittled for it.

Goodbye.

There has been times when I listened to people like Mark and other NTL associates. That was over three years ago. Has things change? No, they are still full of BS and this latest stunt to try and get the upper hand on me is laughable indeed. My only regret is that I should of dismissed what these Guys were saying three years. Of course, they be saying give us a chance. Yes, a new chance every year just to suit their mindset. These guys deserve nothing more than contempt.

bigitup_j · 06-07-2003, 18:24

cruel. that is all i have to say, don't blame them blame ntl for confusing everyone including their staff.

Undisputedtruth · 06-07-2003, 18:25

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Originally posted by binary

P.S. Undisputedtruth- watch out for doing double postings, it's most confusing. And even more confusing if you were to delete one of them now, as any subsequent replies will dissapear (so pls don't delete either of them).

Sorry, there were problems with my internet connection. I even lost a reply to Tristan where I was stating that I was not insulting Mark but stating facts.

I also note how NTL associates are willing to give it but unable to take take, so they run off like "cry babies".

Mark W · 06-07-2003, 18:31

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Originally posted by Undisputedtruth
Goodbye.

There has been times when I listened to people like Mark and other NTL associates. That was over three years ago. Has things change? No, they are still full of BS and this latest stunt to try and get the upper hand on me is laughable indeed. My only regret is that I should of dismissed what these Guys were saying three years. Of course, they be saying give us a chance. Yes, a new chance every year just to suit their mindset. These guys deserve nothing more than contempt.

no binary, as you can see from above i was not referring to you. you have always been even minded and polite to me, thanks

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I also note how NTL associates are willing to give it but unable to take take, so they run off like "cry babies".

give it? please tell me where ive been insulting?

Undisputedtruth · 06-07-2003, 19:02

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Originally posted by Mark W

give it? please tell me where ive been insulting?

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Mark W · 06-07-2003, 19:13

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Originally posted by Undisputedtruth
Post # 47

i have read and reread that post, and would appreciate you enlightening me where exactly i was insulting in it?

Undisputedtruth · 06-07-2003, 19:48

Perhaps, you care to point where exactly have I insulted you.

Mark W · 06-07-2003, 19:58

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Originally posted by Undisputedtruth
Perhaps, you care to point where exactly have I insulted you.

ill take the fact you cant reply to my question toi mean i wasnt insulting afterall?

your turn.....

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Are you serious? Do you really expect me to take advice from "fedupwithntl". A man who cannot hardly spell much less convince me his figures were accurate. I can only imagine that Mark and fedupwithntl are on the same intellectual level.

insinuating i have a lack of inteligence

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There is some much bs from NTL that it is not unreasonable to listen to the likes of NTL associates. They don't know what goes on in their company, they have a awful record of customer services and know one believes a word they say. Is there any point listening to what an NTL associate says

apart from the irony that this was in the same post you insult someone else from not being able to spell, that is hardly pleasant is it?

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There has been times when I listened to people like Mark and other NTL associates. That was over three years ago. Has things change? No, they are still full of BS and this latest stunt to try and get the upper hand on me is laughable indeed. My only regret is that I should of dismissed what these Guys were saying three years. Of course, they be saying give us a chance. Yes, a new chance every year just to suit their mindset. These guys deserve nothing more than contempt.

id say that just about defines the meaning of trollish/insulting behaviour - perhaps you might like to look at the terms and conditions regarding insulting other members?

06-07-2003, 20:04

May I appeal to all to be nice to all on this thread. This thread is designed to obtain information of assistance to all in the Greater London region inrelation to BB/Interactive/Enhanced TV and being rude to ntl staff is not helpful.

Please keep things cool.

**Mick** · 06-07-2003, 20:05

Can we please not argue. No insults please. Remember throwing abuse at one another will not be tolerated here.

Undisputedtruth · 06-07-2003, 20:08

Mark you are being oversensitive here.

I merely remarked that you and fedupwithntl probably think on the same level. Is that so insulting? Or do you think fedupwithntl is actually stupid which is the reason why you are so upset.

There is no direct insult to you. I would say you'll need to act more professional in future.

Yes, I do find your remarks insulting and does not paint an accurate picture of what I am saying. Can't be bothered to waste my time to proof a point to you.

Undisputedtruth

grum1978 · 06-07-2003, 20:10

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Originally posted by Undisputedtruth
Mark you are being oversensitive here.

I merely remarked that you and fedupwithntl probably think on the same level. Is that so insulting? Or do you think fedupwithntl is actually stupid which is the reason why you are so upset.

There is no direct insult to you. I would say you'll need to act more professional in future.

Yes, I do find your remarks insulting and does not paint an accurate picture of what I am saying. Can't be bothered to waste my time to proof a point to you.

Undisputedtruth

More professional!?!?

Its a forum for goodness sake and Mark is posting here in no capacity other than expressing his own opinions