29-09-2006, 11:00
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Re: Mac vs PC
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Originally Posted by punky
OSX is Linux... Just with a different GUI.
In fact the distribution of linux that forms OSX (Darwin) is actually available free... Therefore you are only paying for a GUI and the attractive hardware.
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OS X is not Linux, nor is it based on Linux. Darwin is based on the BSD kernel, which is completely separate from Linux.
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OS X Does. (With the standard keyboard.) When selecting a file you have to drag it to the trash. Pressing delete doesn't work.
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But pressing Apple+backspace works just fine 
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The keyboard has no end or hash key. You need to select the hash sign from a pull down menu... Great for programming 
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Option+3 will give you the hash symbol. Try using the keyboard viewer (formerly known as Key Caps) to show what the different key combinations will produce. There are quite a few special characters available via the Option key.
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29-09-2006, 11:06
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Re: Mac vs PC
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Originally Posted by Lew
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Option+3 will give you the hash symbol. Try using the keyboard viewer (formerly known as Key Caps) to show what the different key combinations will produce. There are quite a few special characters available via the Option key.
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It's obvious that OSX was developed by Unix guys - as a chum of mine, who is a Unix buff, said "nobody knows all of Unix - experts just know most of the shortcuts, and where to look for the rest". That statement above confirms (imho) his statement. 
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29-09-2006, 21:42
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Re: Mac vs PC
That's it! I've had enough of modern computers!
I'm painting my function keys orange!
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30-09-2006, 14:48
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Re: Mac vs PC
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
That's it! I've had enough of modern computers!
I'm painting my function keys orange!
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WOOOHOOOO BBC Micro days again! YAY
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Originally Posted by Lew
OS X is not Linux, nor is it based on Linux. Darwin is based on the BSD kernel, which is completely separate from Linux.
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But pressing Apple+backspace works just fine
Option+3 will give you the hash symbol. Try using the keyboard viewer (formerly known as Key Caps) to show what the different key combinations will produce. There are quite a few special characters available via the Option key. |
Option+3 to display a standard symbol that's been on keyboards for years? What's that all about then? Which muppet came up with that idea?
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16-10-2006, 19:45
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Re: Mac vs PC
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
That's it! I've had enough of modern computers!
I'm painting my function keys orange!
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Y orange? make it yellow, its nicer
The debate has evolved into something i dnt quite understand but am a Windows user, by default. The price being the deciding factor.
I'd love to try out Linux tho!
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16-10-2006, 20:13
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Re: Mac vs PC
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Originally Posted by vbnmu
I'd love to try out Linux tho!
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Then you should give it a try 
Firstly, either download a Linux LiveCD and boot your PC with that in the CD drive (it'll boot into a fully functioning Linux environment that runs entirely from the CD and won't mess around with your Windows installation... when you're done, just reboot the PC without the CD and you're back to Windows) or alternatively use the free VMWare to install a Linux image that you access from within Windows. Both of these options are non-destructive to Windows - although you will suffer a slight performace hit compared to running the OS directly from the hard drive.
Then, when you're happy enough with Linux, you can go for the dual-boot option so that you get the full speed.
I'd recommend you give Kubuntu a try. If you go to their website, you can even order a CD and they'll ship it to you completely free of charge. Now that's service Shame Microsoft don't offer a similar service.
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16-10-2006, 20:51
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Re: Mac vs PC
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Then you should give it a try
I'd recommend you give Kubuntu a try. If you go to their website, you can even order a CD and they'll ship it to you completely free of charge. Now that's service Shame Microsoft don't offer a similar service. |
Thanks 4 tht...
Didn't knw they even ship the cd FOC!!!!
tht is wonderful.
Looking forward to tryin out d CD.
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16-10-2006, 21:03
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Re: Mac vs PC
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I'd recommend you give Kubuntu a try. If you go to their website, you can even order a CD and they'll ship it to you completely free of charge. Now that's service Shame Microsoft don't offer a similar service. |
No no no, plain Ubuntu is what you want! Gnome's where it's at, none of this KDE rubbish
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16-10-2006, 21:07
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Re: Mac vs PC
Sorry, mate, I've gotta disagree... no matter how much I try, I just can't get onj with Gnome. KDE is a lot like Microsoft's GUI, but I prefer it over Gnome.
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16-10-2006, 21:10
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Re: Mac vs PC
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No no no, plain Ubuntu is what you want! Gnome's where it's at, none of this KDE rubbish |
Gnome dnt seem to ship the cd or is it tht i missed a link!
tho i wudt mind trying any Linux 4 a first time, i cnt download 600mb or so of software. nt yet anyway, as my pc only has 536mb left of memory!!!
too many downloads. n too lazy to burn them
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16-10-2006, 21:18
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Re: Mac vs PC
Yeah, you'd need another link...
The version of Linux we're talking about here was originally called Ubuntu. You can order a free version of this from www.ubuntu.com - this version ships with the Gnome GUI instead of KDE.
The version I linked to before is called Kubuntu, which includes KDE instead of Gnome.
Hope that helps clear it up
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You can see a bit of the differences between the 2 by looking at
http://shots.osdir.com/
In partciular, here's what Ubuntu (i.e. using Gnome) looks like... http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/sl....1+screenshots
And, here's what Kubuntu (i.e. using KDE) looks like...
http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/sl...06+screenshots
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16-10-2006, 21:36
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Re: Mac vs PC
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Originally Posted by vbnmu
Gnome dnt seem to ship the cd or is it tht i missed a link!
tho i wudt mind trying any Linux 4 a first time, i cnt download 600mb or so of software. nt yet anyway, as my pc only has 536mb left of memory!!!
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If you use Microsoft Virtual PC, which is free, you can use the .iso file to install the OS to your virtual hard Drive. Therefore you don't even need to burn the cd. Not sure about VMware - but I presume it is the same.
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16-10-2006, 22:00
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Re: Mac vs PC
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Originally Posted by vbnmu
Gnome dnt seem to ship the cd or is it tht i missed a link!
tho i wudt mind trying any Linux 4 a first time, i cnt download 600mb or so of software. nt yet anyway, as my pc only has 536mb left of memory!!!
too many downloads. n too lazy to burn them |
ahem ... this is a forum, not a txt msg service. You can write full words and sentences.
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16-10-2006, 23:21
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Re: Mac vs PC
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ahem ... this is a forum, not a txt msg service. You can write full words and sentences. |
I apologise Chris. I shall make sure that such grammatical mishaps do not occur on the forum again.  
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16-10-2006, 23:28
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Re: Mac vs PC
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I apologise Chris. I shall make sure that such grammatical mishaps do not occur on the forum again. |
So you should, boy. Now stand in the corner and drop your shorts while I give you six of the best across the behind with my Collins Gem.
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