27-10-2005, 17:57
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Re: Neo-Nazi Teenagers
Because we find it distastefull does not make it wrong.
But I'm not saying its right either.
We have to accept that not everyone is a left wing, love everybody kind of person.
These two kids are american, they have probably had a fairly sheltered life, spared from reality by the american media.
But its America and their first amendment is the freedom of speach.
Its not like we havent been guilty of terrible and horrific incidents.
We celebrated trafalgar day not long ago, a day where all englishmen could be proud. Proud of what, slaughter?
Lets also not forget that it was inaction by the then gov in the UK that allowed Hitler to move into a position where he could wage war on all of Europe.
I'm proud to be English, I am proud to be white, I dont stop myself tyelling jokes that may be racist, sexist, ageist. But that does NOT make me prejudiced against those people.
If I wanted to walk about saluting and shouting Seig heil and wearing a pretty ludicrous t-shirt that was a smiley with a hitler tache I'm damned sure I wouldnt be taken seriously either.
Live and let live is all I say.
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27-10-2005, 22:31
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Re: Neo-Nazi Teenagers
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Would people also object to Stalin or USSR T-Shirts?
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No but there isn't the stigma attached to Hitler as Stalin - disregarding the many he killed, the forgotten deaths. Most people would just see it more as a sign of communism then that individual.
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17-08-2015, 16:32
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Re: Neo-Nazi
Sad that I have to wake a 10 year old dead thread but hey its not all bad. Liverpool came out in force to battle these Neo-Nazis
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17-08-2015, 16:49
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Re: Neo-Nazi
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Sad that I have to wake a 10 year old dead thread but hey its not all bad. Liverpool came out in force to battle these Neo-Nazis
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So using violence to deny someone their right to free speech is acceptable?
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17-08-2015, 17:01
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Re: Neo-Nazi Teenagers
I don't condone violence no but would there be any need for violence if these ISIS inspired types got barred to begin with?
http://www.vice.com/read/english-neo...is-weekend-943
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17-08-2015, 17:06
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Re: Neo-Nazi Teenagers
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you want to ban freedom of speech/ expression ?
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17-08-2015, 17:18
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Re: Neo-Nazi Teenagers
No of course not. Extremism can always be countered in better ways.
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17-08-2015, 19:06
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Re: Neo-Nazi Teenagers
Plus some of the mobile phone videos were rather unpleasant especially some of the comments aimed at the police who were only doing their duty of keeping order.Completely uncalled for.
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18-08-2015, 18:56
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Re: Neo-Nazi
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So using violence to deny someone their right to free speech is acceptable?
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Perfectly acceptable if they are "white" nazi's.
Totally unacceptable if they are Islamic nazi's.
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