Sacked by Ntl.

[Lord Nikon]

Just a small point here.....
When the fact of NTLRebel being sacked came to light everyone jumped on the bandwagon of assuming Neil or Ben... you all forgot someone.....
Someone who has admin access, but it isn't reported in their sig
Someone who removed Frank from the site

I mean none other than Ash G....

time to look higher up the chain than Neil or Ben.... we have already seen what Ash is prepared to do....

Originally Posted by Russ D

So you can get away with 'breaking the rules' at NTL and be guilty of sackable offences, as long as you are high enough up the corperate ladder

Yep, you can even run up £17 billion of debt and get away with it if you're high-up enough ...

There's one rule for them and one rule for everyone else.

Don't take any nonsense, rebel. I can't see anything sackable in what you did. For goodness sake, There's far worse than the word 'monkeys' used about ntl on nthw.com, and Ashg is the ultimate boss of the site. So surely he's complicit in such anti-ntl material being published on the internet?

It shouldn't be too hard to tie ntl up in knots over this.

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Mark W

lol, with my name?

besides, this new product is not all that earth shattering, youll find out about it soon enough

Its TLA wouldn't be PVR would it?!

And no I don't expect an answer as I would not want my name associated with another termination!

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by cjll3

That depends on when ntl got that IP address, before, after or during Ash G's takeover of the server, hence my previous question.

But surely an IP can be spoofed, so the address is no proof of guilt.

Also if the IP comes from a range that is controlled by leasing rather than permanent addressing then it could have been leased to another terminal at the time.

Would these both not be mitigating of their charges.

[Russ]

The problem here is NTLrebel has already admitted posting in that thread on .com

[handyman]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

But surely an IP can be spoofed, so the address is no proof of guilt.

Also if the IP comes from a range that is controlled by leasing rather than permanent addressing then it could have been leased to another terminal at the time.

Would these both not be mitigating of their charges.

Shame that the new blue tools give's a ip history for a cable modem. Although I am sure that it was possible to get this before just not as easy.
If he wanted to bring a new product to light or indeed any confidential info, he should have passed it through a mod like I have done in the past. Or posted through a mod/freind on here then there would be no trace.

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Russ D

Actually, as an afterthought, people might be interested in this.....

Back in October of last year, a tech in Swansea took a call from someone who wanted pictures removed from her webspace and didn't know how to do it. The tech helpfully showed her how it was done but she wasn't all that clear on the way it was done so he offered to do it for her. She gave him her webspace address only to find the pictures were of her in extremely pornographic photos. The tech promised to remove them for her.....but only after he'd emailed the link to a load of people in Matrix Court including some team leaders and above, some of whom passed them on to others etc....until one person objected and reported it, as they weren't happy about having a link to such material in their work Inbox.

An internal investigation was launched and the original tech in question was expecting to be severely booted and/or sacked for using the company email system for sending out this sort of filth.

It became apparent that if he was to be disciplined for sending it, then so were the others who passed it on as well, but seeing as some of them were team leaders and/or above, the whole incident was whitewashed apart from an email which went around to everyone in matrix Court warning them then any improper use of the email system would be dealt with.

So you can get away with 'breaking the rules' at NTL and be guilty of sackable offences, as long as you are high enough up the corperate ladder

Not quite - its a consistency thing. You cannot discipline someone for lateness if the firm has a lateness culture.

You cannot discipline someone for breaking a rule if it is flouted by all.

[Russ]

But you can discipline someone if the company contract says that using the internal email system that way will lead to disciplinery procedures.

Originally Posted by Neil

See my reply above.

Nor-you are talking out of your ar$e-you clearly haven't thought about this at all, you have just presumed & thought you would post it to stir the $hit-grow up.

Much as I recognize the hard work work and skill in the work of the team on this site I am saddened by the double standards being employed.

I complained about the above post the language and the the phrase "grow up" and no mods comment. Why am I censored for using the phrase "grow up" and people like Nemesis and Neil do.

I am still an NTL customer by the way still using the phone service & dial up.

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Russ D

But you can discipline someone if the company contract says that using the internal email system that way will lead to disciplinery procedures.

Yes but if that leads to termination then you are more than likely to win at an industrial tribunal if if can be proved that you were singled out and that it was the norm for people to use the company email in that way.

So store those offensive jokes your (someones) boss sent you in a nice paper folder at home for the day it comes back to bite you.

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by Gogogo

Much as I recognize the hard work work and skill in the work of the team on this site I am saddened by the double standards being employed.

I complained about the above post the language and the the phrase "grow up" and no mods comment. Why am I censored for using the phrase "grow up" and people like Nemesis and Neil do.

I am still an NTL customer by the way still using the phone service & dial up.

Gogogo,

I apologise for using that term with you, I too was suprised I wasn't knuckle rapped. But as I said I'm sorry, it won't happen agiain.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

Yes but if that leads to termination then you are more than likely to win at an industrial tribunal if if can be proved that you were singled out and that it was the norm for people to use the company email in that way.

So on that basis I guess NTLrebel would be in a better position if more associates stepped forward and called their colleagues 'monkies' then

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Russ D

So on that basis I guess NTLrebel would be in a better position if more associates stepped forward and called their colleagues 'monkies' then

Perhaps he just needs to prove how closely they are related to their ape descendents and as such monkey is a genetic description not an insult.

He could get friends and family to represent that he uses the term all the time to talk about them.

[Mark W]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

Its TLA wouldn't be PVR would it?!

eh? you wha'?

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by Mark W

eh? you wha'?

You originally from liverpool or what'