Disability vouchers instead of cash

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Paul

Again, complete nonsense, they have every right to ask you why (if they so wish). They also have every right to just say no.

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What has that go to do with questioning a disability ?

There's nothing to stop anyone asking personal questions or questioning someone's stated disability, but they run the risk of being reported for a hate crime or incident.

The Downs syndrome comment was to show that, whilst most people are kind and helpful towards disabled people, some individuals are not.

To show that

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

There's nothing to stop anyone asking personal questions or questioning someone's stated disability, but they run the risk of being reported for a hate crime or incident.

The Downs syndrome comment was to show that, whilst most people are kind and helpful towards disabled people, some individuals are not.

To show that

That is not how 99% of people would react though. It is only you that seems to want to report folk and turn everything back to discrimination.

Also committing an assault versus refusing to help someone is not the same or similar at all.

[Sirius]

If according to Richard you cannot question anyone if they say they are disabled, does it not mean that anyone can claim to be disabled and for instance use a disabled parking space.

Also Richard before you say they would need a blue badge there are fakes you can buy on Ebay that are a perfect fake.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Sirius

If according to Richard you cannot question anyone if they say they are disabled, does it not mean that anyone can claim to be disabled and for instance use a disabled parking space.

Also Richard before you say they would need a blue badge there are fakes you can buy on Ebay that are a perfect fake.

Then in that case anyone can apply for a badge as the council's can't question you, they should just take your word for it.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Then in that case anyone can apply for a badge as the council's can't question you, they should just take your word for it.

in the real world they would tell you to sod off

[peanut]

I have also lost count the amount of times I've come out of a disabled toilet (RADAR) to be met with angry 'disabled' people. To the point I've been shouted and sworn at. Because I don't look disabled. It seems the worse people are the disabled in my opinion. So again would that be a legal issue as you say?

My automatic response which tends to rile and make things worse (hopefully) when it happens now is 'You don't look like an ignorant ......'. (That's the polite version).

[Taf]

Originally Posted by peanut

I have also lost count the amount of times I've come out of a disabled toilet (RADAR) to be met with angry 'disabled' people..

Our son was refused a RADAR key by jobsworths. I mentioned this to his Consultant, who pulled one out of a drawer for him, before phoning the jobsworths to give them merry hell.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by Taf

Our son was refused a RADAR key by jobsworths. I mentioned this to his Consultant, who pulled one out of a drawer for him, before phoning the jobsworths to give them merry hell.

That's shocking that is. Sadly anyone can buy RADAR key from ebay just for £2-3 which is totally out of order and should be stopped.

My worse case and so memorable was during a show at mid interval. I was in line to use the disabled toilet and I actually got rammed from behind by a wheelchair user shouting 'Excuse me.. This is a disabled toilet". I said 'I know' and ignored the person but then got rammed again quite a lot harder. I was told I can't use the toilet and was told to use the normal toilet instead. This was in front of a lot of people as it was packed out. This is where I came out with 'You don't look like an ignorant C(word), looks are deceiving aren't they'. The look on her face is what I'll never forget, but by then I'd had enough as it was really embarrassing. I don't know why (and I regret it now) but I showed her my various 'can't wait cards' and RADAR key then told her to sod off. But it did put a right dampener on the evening sadly. But luckily nothing as bad as that has happened since.

This was before the 'not all disabilities are visible' signs came out which are good and really helpful.

Morals I learnt, treat everyone as equal. Also being disabled doesn't give you extra rights if you're an arse (or not).

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by peanut

I have also lost count the amount of times I've come out of a disabled toilet (RADAR) to be met with angry 'disabled' people. To the point I've been shouted and sworn at. Because I don't look disabled. It seems the worse people are the disabled in my opinion. So again would that be a legal issue as you say?

My automatic response which tends to rile and make things worse (hopefully) when it happens now is 'You don't look like an ignorant ......'. (That's the polite version).

I must admit i do get those looks if i use a disabled toilet, I am recovering from Bladder cancer and when i have to go i have to go.

[Itshim]

Can I moan about disabled parking spaces in supermarkets. I feel that the main point of the is the width, allowing wheelchairs etc to be accessible as possible. Not meant for people that have problems not associated with being able to get in and out of a car etc. ie blind .ducking down.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Itshim

Can I moan about disabled parking spaces in supermarkets. I feel that the main point of the is the width, allowing wheelchairs etc to be accessible as possible. Not meant for people that have problems not associated with being able to get in and out of a car etc. ie blind .ducking down.

Yeah those blind people are scammers.You want to be more worried when they're driving, not parking.

Originally Posted by Itshim

Can I moan about disabled parking spaces in supermarkets. I feel that the main point of the is the width, allowing wheelchairs etc to be accessible as possible. Not meant for people that have problems not associated with being able to get in and out of a car etc. ie blind .ducking down.

Some people with mobility problems (for example, my mother-in-law when she was with us) need the car doors open wide to enable access and assistance getting in/out of the car.

[Taf]

Originally Posted by Itshim

Can I moan about disabled parking spaces in supermarkets. I feel that the main point of them is the width.....

I suspect you have been to our local ASDA with it's newly-laid and painted car park? Instead of single lines between cars, there are those new-fangled 2 line markings.

My car, not a tractor in any sense, has the tyres on both sides touching the lines, so the distance between cars is about 18". I have to choose my spot carefully or the missus, who needs the door wide open to get in-or-out would be trapped in the car. And she doesn't qualify for a disabled parking space.

But the mother-and-child slots are huge! Can I have a father-and-child slot please?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Some people with mobility problems (for example, my mother-in-law when she was with us) need the car doors open wide to enable access and assistance getting in/out of the car.

Same for She who must be obeyed. she has trouble in tight parking spaces.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Taf

I suspect you have been to our local ASDA with it's newly-laid and painted car park? Instead of single lines between cars, there are those new-fangled 2 line markings.

My car, not a tractor in any sense, has the tyres on both sides touching the lines, so the distance between cars is about 18". I have to choose my spot carefully or the missus, who needs the door wide open to get in-or-out would be trapped in the car. And she doesn't qualify for a disabled parking space.

But the mother-and-child slots are huge! Can I have a father-and-child slot please?

No never go there.