26-07-2024, 15:11
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Re: US Election 2024
Can he dump him? The convention has happened, the roll call has happened, he is the VP pick on the ticket.
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26-07-2024, 15:43
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Re: US Election 2024
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Can he dump him? The convention has happened, the roll call has happened, he is the VP pick on the ticket.
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Do they elect a VP nominee?
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Trump’s problem now is that for him to dump Vance is to admit he made a mistake. He should dump Vance - but is he capable of doing it?
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He’s so tragically bad it’d be a shame if somehow Trump had to drop out and he had to step up.
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26-07-2024, 15:50
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Re: US Election 2024
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Do they elect a VP nominee?
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He’s so tragically bad it’d be a shame if somehow Trump had to drop out and he had to step up.
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The Electoral College vote for President & Vice-President.
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26-07-2024, 15:52
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Re: US Election 2024
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The Electoral College vote for President & Vice-President.
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I know the electoral college do, but do the party conventions?
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26-07-2024, 15:58
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Re: US Election 2024
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I know the electoral college do, but do the party conventions?
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I believe the nomination roll call at each of the National Conferences is only for the Presidential nominee
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26-07-2024, 17:15
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Re: US Election 2024
Binning Vance might not even be a net positive if the admission they’re in a panic about Harris adds to her momentum.
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26-07-2024, 20:00
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Re: US Election 2024
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Binning Vance might not even be a net positive if the admission they’re in a panic about Harris adds to her momentum.
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He won’t bin Vance…….based on the ever so accurate opinion polls there are around.
Vance was specifically picked because he does speak to a certain demographic.
In any event, VP’s don’t win or lose elections……Dan Quayle anyone? VPs are really inconsequential, if they were really important Harris would never have been one.
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26-07-2024, 20:03
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Re: US Election 2024
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That's the power of mascara
I have a theory that donny picked about the only person on the planet more toxic than himself, all the shithousery of trump with none of the laughs
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26-07-2024, 21:13
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Re: US Election 2024
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I have a theory that donny picked about the only person on the planet more toxic than himself, all the shithousery of trump with none of the laughs
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Yes, never let the person st the top choose their own successor - they'll always choose someone worse than them to make themselves look better! And with Trump's cognitive issues now being more openly discussed, a vote for Trump could well end up letting Vance into the White House.
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26-07-2024, 21:53
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Re: US Election 2024
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He won’t bin Vance…….based on the ever so accurate opinion polls there are around.
Vance was specifically picked because he does speak to a certain demographic.
In any event, VP’s don’t win or lose elections……Dan Quayle anyone? VPs are really inconsequential, if they were really important Harris would never have been one.
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Venture Capitalists?
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…following his graduation from Yale he developed extensive ties with Silicon Valley’s investors and elites. His time as a venture capitalist, coupled with his status as a rags-to-riches media fixture, helped him make connections central to his political rise, as well as garner him influential supporters that pushed Trump to make him his vice presidential pick.
Following a brief period of work in corporate law after he graduated Yale, Vance moved to San Francisco and got a job at Thiel’s Mithril Capital venture firm in 2015. After Hillbilly Elegy became a bestseller in 2016 and brought him to national prominence, Vance joined the venture capital firm Revolution, founded by the former AOL CEO Steve Case.
Vance remained a part of the tech VC world after returning to Ohio and leaving Revolution in early 2020. He received financial backing from Thiel to co-found the venture firm Narya Capital – which, like Thiel’s enterprises, was named after an object from The Lord of The Rings, this time a ring of power made for elves. Other prominent investors in Narya included Eric Schmidt, the former Google CEO,and Marc Andreessen, a venture capitalist, who announced his own support for Trump this past week. The stated goal of Vance’s firm was to invest in early-stage startups in cities that Silicon Valley tended to overlook.
Narya Capital in 2021 led a group of conservative investors, including Thiel, to put money into Rumble, the video streaming platform that positions itself as a less-moderated and more rightwing friendly version of YouTube. Vance’s co-founder at Narya, Colin Greenspon, touted the investment as a challenge to big tech’s hold on online services – a frequent conservative talking point during the backlash to content moderation around the pandemic and 2020 presidential election. It was also around this time that Thiel, who heavily backed Trump financially during the 2016 campaign, brought Vance to first talk with Trump during a secretive meeting at Mar-a-Lago in February of 2021, according to the New York Times.
Although Thiel has pledged in recent years to stay out of donations to the 2024 election, Vance has since flexed his other Silicon Valley connections to ingratiate himself to Trump. The Ohio senator introduced David Sacks, a prominent venture capitalist, to Donald Trump Jr in March, the New York Times reported, and attended Sacks’ pro-Trump fundraiser in June, co-sponsored by Chamath Palihapitiya, Sacks’ co-host on the popular podcast All In. The event, which cost as much as $300,000 to attend, was held at Sacks’s San Francisco mansion and featured the investor thanking Vance for his help making the fundraiser happen. During an informal conversation at the dinner, Sacks and Palihapitiya told Trump to nominate Vance as his VP choice.
Sacks spoke at the Republican national convention Monday. In the days prior, he had also called Trump to advocate for Vance as the VP pick, as had Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson, the ex-Fox News host, according to Axios. Thiel also expressed his support for Vance in private calls with Trump, the New York Times reported. When Trump confirmed Vance would be his running mate, Sacks and Musk posted fawning celebrations on Twitter – with Musk saying the ticket “resounds with victory”.
Many of Vance’s wealthy tech elite and venture capitalist supporters now appear to be preparing to offer even more tangible support. Investors including Musk, Andreessen and Thiel’s co-founder in Palantir, Joe Lonsdale, are all reportedly planning to donate huge sums of money to back the Trump and Vance campaign.
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26-07-2024, 22:08
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Whether a VP pick moves the dial or not is open to debate. Evidence doesn't indicate they bring their 'home' state to the table any more than anyone else.
That said, I can't help but think they represent some kind of counterweight to the top of the ticket to appeal to someone else across the board.
Bush/Cheney - Cheney the DC insider
Obama/Biden - old grey white guy. DC insider
Trump/Pence - political veteran
Biden/Harris - younger, woman of colour
Vance doesn't bring any appeal to anyone who wasn't already voting for Trump. And he's dull.
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26-07-2024, 22:20
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: US Election 2024
Good news - Trump’s ear appears to have fully recovered after being shot by a bullet (travelling at a muzzle velocity around 2,800 feet per second - nearly three times the speed of sound) from a DPMS AR rifle …
https://news.sky.com/story/trump-att...-lago-13185562
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26-07-2024, 22:21
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Re: US Election 2024
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Yes, never let the person st the top choose their own successor .
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Or in the case of Biden, never let the people who are managing the person at the top choose his successor……let Nancy Pelosi do it.
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No
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26-07-2024, 22:27
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Re: US Election 2024
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And he's dull.
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Oh I don’t know … I think he’s made quite an impression sofa.
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26-07-2024, 22:31
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Re: US Election 2024
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Are you suggesting he wasn’t hurt by the bullet? Or shot at?
You can see from this photo his ear is mainly intact, doesn’t mean he wasn’t shot at.
What are you implying, Just out of curiosity?
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