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			Found the relevant piece from the Brodcasting regs, & it seems that OFCOM still have some say if the programme is directed at the UK from another member state: 
"Under the AVMS Directive, audiovisual media services transmitted by a media-service provider under the jurisdiction of a particular EU member state have to comply only with the laws applicable to audiovisual media services in that member state (Article 2(1), AVMS Directive). The AVMS Directive provides mechanisms aimed at preventing service providers establishing themselves in a member state where the regulatory regime is more relaxed than the regime in the country in which they wish to broadcast. A member state who considers that a broadcaster under the jurisdiction of another member state provides a television broadcast which is wholly or mostly directed towards its territory can take action to seek to get the broadcaster to comply with the stricter rules (Article 4, AVMS Directive). 
 
An audiovisual programme made outside the EU after 19 December 2009 will still have to comply with the basic UK standards in order to be broadcast in the UK. A programme made for reception outside the EU does not have to comply with the AVMS Directive (Article 2(6), AVMS Directive) or UK legislation, but may be subject to non-EU regulatory regimes."
http://uk.practicallaw.com/4-504-3931#a916810
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-10-2016, 19:59
			
			
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				How about putting the remote out of the reach of the toddler - problem solved...    
			
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 Because many TV's (most?) can be used without the remote control.  
 
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 Nor you, thankfully.  We're still waiting for you to link to a much more interesting thread started by yourself.
 
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				Maybe it might be time to close it. It's not moving forward. 
			
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 Feel free to join Marty and go and do something else instead then and leave others who wish to discuss the topic to do so without your inane interruptions.
 
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				Really Hugh using logic is really underhand of you..you should stick to emotive, hand wringing and ridiculous hyperbole to prove your point.. 
			
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 What do you believe to be hyperbole?
 
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				Found the relevant piece from the Brodcasting regs, & it seems that OFCOM still have some say if the programme is directed at the UK from another member state: 
"Under the AVMS Directive, audiovisual media services transmitted by a media-service provider under the jurisdiction of a particular EU member state have to comply only with the laws applicable to audiovisual media services in that member state (Article 2(1), AVMS Directive). The AVMS Directive provides mechanisms aimed at preventing service providers establishing themselves in a member state where the regulatory regime is more relaxed than the regime in the country in which they wish to broadcast. A member state who considers that a broadcaster under the jurisdiction of another member state provides a television broadcast which is wholly or mostly directed towards its territory can take action to seek to get the broadcaster to comply with the stricter rules (Article 4, AVMS Directive). 
 
An audiovisual programme made outside the EU after 19 December 2009 will still have to comply with the basic UK standards in order to be broadcast in the UK. A programme made for reception outside the EU does not have to comply with the AVMS Directive (Article 2(6), AVMS Directive) or UK legislation, but may be subject to non-EU regulatory regimes."
http://uk.practicallaw.com/4-504-3931#a916810 
			
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			02-10-2016, 09:49
			
			
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I don't think that it is a person's right to have children (it's a privilege) and, in the most extreme cases, would support mandatory sterilisation of some males and females. 
			
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 Just a shame we didn't get to your parents in time..............
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			02-10-2016, 13:37
			
			
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				Just a shame we didn't get to your parents in time.............. 
			
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			02-10-2016, 14:22
			
			
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I don't think that it is a person's right to have children (it's a privilege) and, in the most extreme cases, would support mandatory sterilisation of some males and females. 
			
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 What a dark and disturbing view of the world to have.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			02-10-2016, 20:22
			
			
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			Well, I fail to see how this is a Virgin Media thread. Richard's complaint seems to be with Freeview, and so I think we should end this now. 
 
Porn, of a more disturbing nature, is already freely available on the net, and so this whole thread is irrelevant anyway. Let's move on.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-10-2016, 15:27
			
			
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				Well, I fail to see how this is a Virgin Media thread. Richard's complaint seems to be with Freeview, and so I think we should end this now. 
 
Porn, of a more disturbing nature, is already freely available on the net, and so this whole thread is irrelevant anyway. Let's move on. 
			
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 The fact that heavier porn is available on the net isn't really pertinent to the problem in hand.
 
Part of the problem is Freeview broadcasting FTA without PIN protection, but I also object to other channels in the EU being able to broadcast to the UK without having to be licensed by our regulator.
 
I wonder how this will be affected following Mays announcement on Brexit??
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-10-2016, 16:40
			
			
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				]Well, I fail to see how this is a Virgin Media thread[/B]. Richard's complaint seems to be with Freeview, and so I think we should end this now. 
 
Porn, of a more disturbing nature, is already freely available on the net, and so this whole thread is irrelevant anyway. Let's move on. 
			
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			The issue of non Ofcom regulated porn applies to all UK TV platforms (including VM). 
 
The issue of soft porn being transmitted without encryption and/or PIN protection appears to be a Freeview problem only.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			It's only a problem for irresponsible parents and i don't see why the rest of the responsible people should have to jump through hoops to keep relinquishing the numpties of their responsibilities.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				It's only a problem for irresponsible parents and i don't see why the rest of the responsible people should have to jump through hoops to keep relinquishing the numpties of their responsibilities. 
			
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I wonder how this will be affected following Mays announcement on Brexit?? 
			
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