People on Carers Allowance to be studied more closely.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

The DWP will not answer questions about something that doesn't exist you don't think they have enough to do and still none of the groups I'm involved with or any of the politicians have heard anything. This is about trying to get in this carer's involved in DWP matters that affect them and to look into streamlining the system of assistance and claim that currently exists and it's an ongoing process that's been around for year's. Disabled people are called into different meetings with the DWP to gauge their reaction and suggestions for future improvements.

They have acknowledged that it exists and refuse to discuss it.

If it's borne out of a genuine desire to improve the service, there would be no wall of silence and claimant representative groups would welcome it.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The simple answer is that the reluctance of the DWP to enter into a discussion with legally trained professionals about this initiative is raising red flags.

I'm confident that they will eventually have to explain what this is all about to the people that they purport to serve- both the DWP and the Government.

If there is nothing ominous, I doubt that there would be such a wall of silence.

A) it's not a new initiative

B) Only you think the DWP won't talk about

C) There is no wall of silence

D) Nomadking gave more information in one post than you have given in the entire thread and every link he posted shows your assertions to be total rubbish

[Anypermitedroute]

Originally Posted by martyh

A) it's not a new initiative

B) Only you think the DWP won't talk about

C) There is no wall of silence

D) Nomadking gave more information in one post than you have given in the entire thread and every link he posted shows your assertions to be total rubbish

I just been viewing some of the spectacular scenes of scilly where these natural rocks of St Mary's have taken form over 1000s of years

As a rule of thumb you probably be waiting for E) to come much longer I'm afraid

[dilli-theclaw]

Well I'm so confused now I don't know who to believe trust or whatever.

The next personal comment will get the member suspended.

Grow up all of you, and act like adults, its worse than a school playground in here atm and my patience is at an end.

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Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw

Well I'm so confused now I don't know who to believe trust or whatever.

I'm not suprised, too much fighting going on atm, which will stop now.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by dilli-theclaw

Well I'm so confused now I don't know who to believe trust or whatever.

I try to live my caring role looking on the bright side and not descending into despair every time someone or other claims armageddon is imminent.

I appreciate your problems far exceed mine in so many ways but I have the burden of trying to do what's right for an adult child who's reliant upon me and the decisions I make on his behalf. Frankly it's heartbreaking at times but I'll never have my already stressful existence made unnecessarily worse by the sort of unfounded rumours which have become all too common. My advice, if you want it, is to trust that those who care for you will continue to and believe that the help and medical intervention you need will remain available until proved otherwise.

At least you have Natalie who's never going to let you down mate. She's clearly one in a million.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Osem

I try to live my caring role looking on the bright side and not descending into despair every time someone or other claims armageddon is imminent.

I appreciate your problems far exceed mine in so many ways but I have the burden of trying to do what's right for an adult child who's reliant upon me and the decisions I make on his behalf. Frankly it's heartbreaking at times but I'll never have my already stressful existence made unnecessarily worse by the sort of unfounded rumours which have become all too common. My advice, if you want it, is to trust that those who care for you will continue to and believe that the help and medical intervention you need will remain available until proved otherwise.

At least you have Natalie whose never going to let you down mate. She's clearly one in a million.

Any carer is "one in a million" and are worth their weight in gold. They are to be applauded for all the dedication they have, the care they give and the unwavering sense of duty that makes them what they are.

The last thing they need is the obvious scaremongering that this thread is proving to be.

[Mod Edit - do not discuss reps, please]

Dili please don't get too concerned about this right now as it is not actually affecting anyone and beyond one person there is no factual evidence to back up anything sinister going on. That's why this is a bad thread and why it should be closed it will cause unnecessary concern to people who already have enough going on to worry about and don't need more unsubstantiated claims that cause them to worry.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Dili please don't get too concerned about this right now as it is not actually affecting anyone and beyond one person there is no factual evidence to back up anything sinister going on. That's why this is a bad thread and why it should be closed it will cause unnecessary concern to people who already have enough going on to worry about and don't need more unsubstantiated claims that cause them to worry.

I fail to see what would be achieved by stifling discussion.

I suggest that you wait until this has been properly dealt with before making unfounded accusations.

There is nothing wrong with organisations keeping an ear to the ground about any forthcoming changes. Their role is to do their best for the people that they represent, before problems arise.

If you wish to put your head in the sand, or do not believe that there is any possibility of the DWP/Government ever doing anything ominous towards disabled people and their carers, you are free to do so.

Off topic postings deleted..Remember that Paul has already asked for the arguing to cease or people would be suspended..How about listening to the advice.Even better step away from this thread.

Oh for gods sake I'm not putting my head in the sand and I'm very familiar with the damage this conservative government has done to many genuine disabled claimants and the worry and stress they have caused. You've given nothing not a damn thing of substance to support what you claim you just insult others who don't agree with you and keep claiming a wall of silence it's pathetic and if it's what this forum has become then feel free to permanently ban me.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Oh for gods sake I'm not putting my head in the sand and I'm very familiar with the damage this conservative government has done to many genuine disabled claimants and the worry and stress they have caused. You've given nothing not a damn thing of substance to support what you claim you just insult others who don't agree with you and keep claiming a wall of silence it's pathetic and if it's what this forum has become then feel free to permanently ban me.

And that's the rub. Absolutely nothing has been posted to back it up so where does the wall of silence exist?

With Richard.

This thread should be locked if he can't come up with solid evidence of what he is purporting to be happening.

Just in case Richard doesn't understand the word purport here's the definition.
"appear to be or do something, especially falsely."

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

That's why this is a bad thread and why it should be closed

Originally Posted by pip08456

This thread should be locked

What a terrible attitude. The mods rightly take a dim view of being told what to do. Why not just discuss in a rational, adult manner rather than insist on censorship?

There are threads here that get shouted down at the mere utterance of the word 'carer' or 'allowances' or 'motability'. Get a grip. No-one has an agenda here; I know I like to hear of and learn from the experiences of others and it would be wrong for some topics to be no go areas for discussion.

Strewth.

Discuss what ? there are no facts to be discussed no announced policy to debate and far as i can see no current affair issue all it's doing is scaremongering and has caused concern for one member. Carer's rights as well as the rights of disabled people in this country need discussing and some change in policy that's not on the table here and threads like this don't help in anyway whatsoever.

If you have nothing to discuss, then might I suggest you move on to other threads.