Yet again - Cyclist Killed in London - Page 5

papa smurf · 09-02-2015, 19:56

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Originally Posted by Kursk

Remember that when one of your kids is mown down by a bus driver using a phone whilst driving.

you can't get a bus on a cycle path they are only about 4 feet wide

Kursk · 09-02-2015, 19:59

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

you can't get a bus on a cycle path they are only about 4 feet wide

Bud-dum tish

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Gary L · 09-02-2015, 19:59

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Originally Posted by techguyone

If they used cycle lanes they wouldn't be able to strap on all their surveillance gear and play 'traffic cop' like this guy & so many others.

Is he still collecting stamps. or has he dedicated his life to this now?

Kursk · 09-02-2015, 20:00

Public service. Good man.

Osem · 09-02-2015, 21:05

As dash cams become more popular the cameras will soon be focussing plenty more on the cyclists. That's as it should be. No road users should be immune from scrutiny.

Julian · 09-02-2015, 22:01

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Originally Posted by Osem

As dash cams become more popular the cameras will soon be focussing plenty more on the cyclists. That's as it should be. No road users should be immune from scrutiny.

But with no identification they will continue be complete ****s with impunity.

Osem · 10-02-2015, 07:02

Well that's not entirely true. Police in C. London regularly mount operations in which cyclists are stopped and even fined for breaking the rules. I recently saw a news item about one such operation in Oxford Street. As has been said, people who drop litter, for example, are stopped and fined. Cyclists can be dealt with he same way. I'll grant you that without number plates it's harder and there's very little chance of CCTV being used to identify wrongdoers but cyclists have enjoyed the luxury of being able to point the finger at the motorist for quite some time and exploited it in order to press for changes to road layouts etc. This is going to change and we're going to see plenty of footage of cyclists behaving recklessly and dangerously. I have no doubt that, sooner or later, dashcam footage obtained by motorists will be used in the prosecution of cyclists and civil actions.

Kursk · 10-02-2015, 07:43

This will depend on there being a physical police presence. Well, nothing to worry about there then

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You'll be able to sit in your armchair looking at your dash cam video of unidentifiable miscreants. Sounds fun.

Osem · 10-02-2015, 08:10

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Originally Posted by Kursk

This will depend on there being a physical police presence. Well, nothing to worry about there then

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You'll be able to sit in your armchair looking at your dash cam video of unidentifiable miscreants. Sounds fun.

As I've already pointed out the police are there in certain key places and as incidents are reported (or not) their presence will alter accordingly. Of course none of this would be necessary if all road users behaved considerately but we all know they don't and many cyclists are also drivers so they're not without blame whether on 2 wheels or 4. Being an inconsiderate idiot is a mindset and nothing to do with a chosen form of transport but it's great to see you revelling in the prospect of one type of dangerous idiot being able to get away with breaking the law. No doubt you'll continue enjoying the thought that law breakers are unidentifiable when someone you love gets badly injured or worse by a cyclist on the pavement and they're never traced. Perhaps you'll also enjoy having an idiotic pedestrian jump out in front of you or one of your loved ones causing an accident from which you/they suffer greatly as a result of and the cause of the problem runs off into the night. They're untraceable too right. I'm sure that'll make you feel all warm and cosy...

Kursk · 10-02-2015, 08:19

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Originally Posted by Osem

As I've already pointed out the police are there in certain key places and as incidents are reported (or not) their presence will alter accordingly. Of course none of this would be necessary if all road users behaved considerately but we all know they don't and many cyclists are also drivers so they're not without blame whether on 2 wheels or 4. Being an inconsiderate idiot is a mindset and nothing to do with a chosen form of transport but it's great to see you revelling in the prospect of one type of dangerous idiot being able to get away with breaking the law. No doubt you'll continue enjoying the thought that law breakers are unidentifiable when someone you love gets badly injured or worse by a cyclist on the pavement and they're never traced. Perhaps you'll also enjoy having an idiotic pedestrian jump out in front of you or one of your loved ones causing an accident from which you/they suffer greatly as a result of and the cause of the problem runs off into the night. They're untraceable too right. I'm sure that'll make you feel all warm and cosy...

Accidents are an inevitable fact of life. I might have an accident in my car, on my motorbike, as a cyclist or as a pedestrian. Some people have an accident in their pants whilst typing from their armchair

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Perhaps all pedestrians should be made to wear a registration plate? They can have personalised numbers like FAT50....

Ken W · 10-02-2015, 08:45

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Originally Posted by Kursk

Eh? You think it is stupid of cyclists to use the road? I must have missed the bit in the Highway Code that says that the use of cycle paths is mandatory and that cyclists should not use the road

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Are cyclists to be criticised for complying with the law as well as breaking it?

Good heavens, your village is a hotspot of law-breaking depravity Ken. Have you thought of moving to somewhere more peaceful?

Yesterday I was in a pedestrianized street in Reading which has a no cycling signs displayed a cyclists very nearly hit a pedestrian.

Ken

Gary L · 10-02-2015, 09:06

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Originally Posted by Ken W

Yesterday I was in a pedestrianized street in Reading which has a no cycling signs displayed a cyclists very nearly hit a pedestrian.

I would have pushed him off.

it's the only way they learn.

dave6x · 10-02-2015, 09:10

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Originally Posted by Ken W

Yesterday I was in a pedestrianized street in Reading which has a no cycling signs displayed a cyclists very nearly hit a pedestrian.

Ken

Only nearly? They were lucky! I'm a regular walker doing several miles each day and I have been run into twice by cyclists illegally riding on footpaths, and suffered a fair amount of foul verbal abuse for "being in their way" on narrow footpaths! Much more dangerous at night when over 90% of cyclists seem to think that they can ride without lights on the footpath!

One of the safest places to walk locally is on a 2.5m wide combined cycleway/footway constructed 2 years ago at a cost of several £100,000, but cyclists are very rarely seen on it as they prefer the narrow footpath on the other side of the road!!!

Osem · 10-02-2015, 10:12

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Originally Posted by Kursk

Accidents are an inevitable fact of life. I might have an accident in my car, on my motorbike, as a cyclist or as a pedestrian. Some people have an accident in their pants whilst typing from their armchair

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Perhaps all pedestrians should be made to wear a registration plate? They can have personalised numbers like FAT50....

Really? You don't say?!

Anyway, carry on avoiding the questions and making yourself feel better by posting puerile drivel.

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Originally Posted by dave6x

Only nearly? They were lucky! I'm a regular walker doing several miles each day and I have been run into twice by cyclists illegally riding on footpaths, and suffered a fair amount of foul verbal abuse for "being in their way" on narrow footpaths! Much more dangerous at night when over 90% of cyclists seem to think that they can ride without lights on the footpath!

One of the safest places to walk locally is on a 2.5m wide combined cycleway/footway constructed 2 years ago at a cost of several £100,000, but cyclists are very rarely seen on it as they prefer the narrow footpath on the other side of the road!!!

It's happened to us here too but the fact is that idiots are to blame not cyclists or drivers. Surely it's not much to ask cyclists to make themselves visible and neither should it be too much to ask drivers not to park dangerously or drive recklessly. Whilst one side or other persists in blaming everyone else nothing will change and people will continue to die and suffer needlessly. Yes drivers kill/injure far more people than cyclists ever will but that doesn't mean cyclists should feel free to act irresponsibly even if they're stupid enough to not to wear safety gear, use lights etc. Every time a cyclist, driver or pedestrian gets killed or seriously injured a family is devastated so we should all be doing as much as we reasonably can to act responsibly and reduce the risks to us all because sooner or later the family in question might be our own.

Kursk · 10-02-2015, 15:02

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Originally Posted by Ken W

Yesterday I was in a pedestrianized street in Reading which has a no cycling signs displayed a cyclists very nearly hit a pedestrian.

Ken

So nothing actually happened then? I bet someone, somewhere was smoking a fag indoors but it doesn't make it newsworthy Ken.

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I would have pushed him off.

it's the only way they learn.

Nah, you don't go out Gary. You're in posting on the internet all day.

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Originally Posted by Osem

Anyway, carry on avoiding the questions and making yourself feel better by posting puerile drivel.

But your post didn't contain a single question? This leaves me in the unenviable position of amusing myself until you can actually think of a question instead of making pronouncements on everything but the kitchen sink.