Doesn't go far enough

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I don't know where you live Damien, but if you get THE EVEING STANDARD in London, you read that.

This is what is going to happen to the police service in London. Due to cutbacks the Met Police is having to find major cutbacks and people will almost certainly lose there jobs. Remember the Tottenham riots several months ago, well l was there and it the most scariest thing that l ever saw and the government want to cut policing.

You cannot have a private company run this sort of work its totally impossible, look what happen at the Olympics, total chaos.

WE need to do what they did in America, they DOUBLED there police service, and we should be doing the same here.

Next time you call 999, see what happens then. Crime will almost ceratinly go up, and the general public, thats you and me will feel unsafe when you walk the streets.

I called the police yesterday, when l was in Hounslow and no one turned up as they had no officers spare - this is what is happening in London - so if you think thats complete rubbish, think about it.

999 will probably have a fee attached the company citing it has to balance the books.

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Originally Posted by martyh

you need to read up on the principle of a single tax rate ,it's all in the link i posted
but a quick taster for you is that with a single tax rate most if not all the loopholes open to high earners via their accountants will be closed .At the moment with a good accountant someone who is supposed to pay 50% will probably pay less that 20%

Loopholes can be closed on the existing system as well, it doesnt require a flat rate to do that.

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Loopholes can be closed on the existing system as well, it doesnt require a flat rate to do that.

Yes they can but it is a lot easier and cheaper if there is a single tax rate .A single tax rate means that taxes like NI contributions can be abolished .A single tax rate will mean that everyone above a certain pay level will pay the correct tax no loopholes no clever little tax schemes .

[Chrysalis]

BY the way I do accept your argument for self employed and business owners, tax credits is simple on PAYE but complex on self employed. The benefit system has the same issue as well, claiming any income related benefits when self employed has issues. But from what I understand proposed changes such as universal credit wont fix those complications, the issue been when people have a variable income thats hard to predict and keep steady over a long period of time.

The only 3 reasonable ways I can see this been dealt with is.

1 - person submits estimaed earnings start of tax year and gets annual reward based on that estimate, at end of year however person may owe money back to hrmc/dwp if overpaid or other way round if under paid. Current system for tax credits works this way? but not for benefits such as housing benefit which are far messier than tax credits.
2 - person submits earnings at end of financial year and as such gets reward in arrears at end of year but the reward is accurate as is actual earnings, this should reduce mistakes fraud etc. but person has to live without help for a year.
3- similiar to #2 but done more regular like monthly, to simplify it the figures can be submitted without proof monthly over the internet or phone, to ensure continuity, but annually at end of each year proof has to be sent to qualify continued entitlement.