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Old 26-10-2011, 21:21   #61
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What are the Gandhi Rules?

I have heard of the Gandhi Satyagraha (Civil Resistance principles), but not Rules.
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Old 26-10-2011, 21:26   #62
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Rule 2 - we don't talk about Gandhi Rules....
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Old 27-10-2011, 09:58   #63
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The chancellor of St Paul's Cathedral Canon Dr Giles Fraser has resigned from his post. Dr Fraser, who has been sympathetic to the protest camp, said on Twitter: "It is with great regret and sadness that I have handed in my notice at St Paul's Cathedral."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-15472362

Seems that not all his colleagues are as supportive of the protestors.

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The Bishop of London said the demonstration had raised a number of very important questions but that the time had come for the protesters to leave.
Who'd have thought...

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I think they're something to do with 20-20 cricket aren't they?..
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Old 27-10-2011, 10:14   #64
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Re: Anti-Wall Street Protests Spreading to Cities Large and Small

I really hope Giles Fraser hangs up his cassock and then pitches a tent outside the cathedral.
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Old 27-10-2011, 10:16   #65
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I really hope Giles Fraser hangs up his cassock and then pitches a tent outside the cathedral.
.... and occupy it overnight perhaps?
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Old 27-10-2011, 10:22   #66
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.... and occupy it overnight perhaps?
You know, I think most people have completely missed the significance of the unoccupied tents.

You always have your bloody-minded crusties at these sorts of things, but now the well-heeled middle classes are getting involved. They still buy their coffee at Starbucks and they go home for a shower and a warm bed. They're by no means expert at the protest lark. In fact they don't really have much of a clue at all about how to do it. But they are starting to think that they should do it, and that's significant.
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You could be right but it'll take a lot more than that to change anything.

Anyway, how long before some enterprising 'capitalist' amongst the protestors spots a golden opportunity and tries 'renting out' some of this prime c. London realty?
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Sad about Dr Fraser who seems to be the true epitome of a Christian in this case..Or as I understand the word to mean.
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The chancellor of St Paul’s Cathedral is to step down from his post after acting in a way that is supposed to be synonymous with the Christian faith.
Reports suggest that Canon Dr Giles Fraser, who has been sympathetic to the protest camp outside the London landmark, considers his position untenable after mistakenly practising what he preaches.
http://newsthump.com/2011/10/27/st-p...-of-tolerance/

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Interview with Dr Giles Fraser.

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"The church cannot answer peaceful protest with violence," said Fraser, adding that it was apparent that the Corporation of London was clearer than the cathedral authorities about its desire to see the protesters moved on...

..."What the camp does is challlenge the church with the problem of the incarnation - that you have God who is grand and almighty, who gets born in a stable. St Paul was a tent maker. If you tried to recreate where Jesus would have been born, for me I could imagine Jesus being born in the camp."

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The dean of St Paul's Cathedral in London has resigned, saying his position had become untenable.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15524483

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It seems these protests are doing more harm to the Church than the City of
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Which isn't their intention. They wanted to be in the square outside the Stock Exchange.
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Which isn't their intention. They wanted to be in the square outside the Stock Exchange.
Which is why I haven't claimed it was their intention. Their intention is irrelevant - their actions and refusal to move on voluntarily and peacefully from the Cathedral's grounds have, however, quite predictably caused chaos and a great deal of harm to an entirely innocent institution which has nothing whatsoever to do with their cause.
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Which is why I haven't claimed it was their intention. Their intention is irrelevant - their actions and refusal to move on voluntarily and peacefully from the Cathedral's grounds have, however, quite predictably caused chaos and a great deal of harm to an entirely innocent institution which has nothing whatsoever to do with their cause.
I said they are picking on the wrong target. I hope they are happy with the trouble they are creating for the Church, I might not be a religious person myself but if i was i would be annoyed that these people are targeting that building and making people resign.

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Which isn't their intention. They wanted to be in the square outside the Stock Exchange.
Then they should move, Let them go and picket Downing street instead of a church
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aren't the protesters unwittingly revealing problems in the church that where already there ,not causing them ?
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