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Old 23-12-2010, 16:39   #61
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you were lucky it didnt snap

Glad its sorted now though
your telling me , i very carefuly hooked it with the eye of a sewing needle to pull it back straight
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i very carefuly hooked it with the eye of a sewing needle to pull it back straight
Neat idea. I've used tweezers in the past but that's a clever bit of lateral thinking.

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Old 24-12-2010, 22:40   #63
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Re: building a pc

Glad it went ok in the end! Everyone above was suggesting it be motherboard. Wasn't so sure based on the stuff you posted, but that was the reason I was so persistant-(ly annoying!) in my posts above asking you what you had done. It's all about narrowing down the component at fault.
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Old 24-12-2010, 22:56   #64
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Glad it went ok in the end! Everyone above was suggesting it be motherboard. Wasn't so sure based on the stuff you posted, but that was the reason I was so persistant-(ly annoying!) in my posts above asking you what you had done. It's all about narrowing down the component at fault.
All the symptoms pointed to mobo. No one is going to think there is a bent pin on the cpu.
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All the symptoms pointed to mobo. No one is going to think there is a bent pin on the cpu. I do notice that you didnt mention a bent cpu pin? I also notice that most of what you advised I had already mentioned
I think you got the wrong end of the stick? I'm just happy he managed to sort it out. It's funny...another forum I frequent, somebody just did a very similar thing but not the CPU pin. In fact they bent the motherboard pins quite badly although I still think repairable if one is careful enough to take the time to bend them all back into place. With that kind of thing, it really pays to take your time. Cliche, but true.

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Old 24-12-2010, 23:04   #66
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in all fairness retail cpus have gone through such vigourous testing and quality control 99.99999% are gonna be mint. I have not seen a failed CPU in ages whereas I have come across loads of doa or unstable motherboards.

I would never have thought it was a bent cpu however the diagnostic process I would have followed at some point I would have reseated the cpu and hopefull notice then.

Touch wood the last cpu I ever had to deal with bent pins from new I thing was a skt939 so the pins were a lot thicker and noticing it bent was easy. It was also an OEM which I never buy anymore.
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Old 24-12-2010, 23:05   #67
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All the symptoms pointed to mobo. No one is going to think there is a bent pin on the cpu.
I think 99%of people would have said mobo ,before i realised there was a bent cpu pin we discovered that one of the ram slots was not working so i still thought mobo,it was my son that thought to google bent pin faults which came back as 1 ram slot not working ,i checked the cpu and hey presto pin no1 was bent ...very, very lucky
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Do you know what I should have thought about the bent cpu pin part aswell, simply because 1 pin on Asus Rampage II Extreme mobo was bent which meant 1 ram slot was not working, but did you mention about the ram in a post as I can't see it unless I am just not reading it throughly enough lol.

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Re: Building a pc

weird, post went to completely the wrong place lol. Bent pins can cause all sorts of weird issues hence why the need to be very careful with them when installing but lets face it when a nice shiny new mobo and CPU are sitting on your table the last thing you want to do is sit and look at it lol
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Do you know what I should have thought about the bent cpu pin part aswell, simply because 1 pin on Asus Rampage II Extreme mobo was bent which meant 1 ram slot was not working, but did you mention about the ram in a post as I can't see it unless I am just not reading it throughly enough lol.

Glad it is sorted though.
we didnt click that the ram slot was not working untill the second board arrived .It gave us fault beeps at post wich told us that it was faulty memory ,i removed 1 ram stick and restarted and got a post replaced the other stick got no post narrowed it down to slot 2 of the ram thats when we checked the cpu .The original board did not give us anybeeps at it did not even post so had no clue at all ,hence not telling anyone about faulty ram slots as we had no idea .
Might be worth mentioning that the original Asus board did not give any fault beeps as a result of the bent pin so if anyone building a board has these issues ..no beeps at post..no graphics...connecting IDE cable cuts power to the DVDRW then look at the pins on the CPU
Gygabit boards show the same symptoms but DO beep at post

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weird, post went to completely the wrong place lol. Bent pins can cause all sorts of weird issues hence why the need to be very careful with them when installing but lets face it when a nice shiny new mobo and CPU are sitting on your table the last thing you want to do is sit and look at it lol

Yes my son is 13yrs and couldn't resist it and couldn't wait for me comming in from work ,patience is not something that 13year olds are known for
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Old 25-12-2010, 11:22   #71
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did you fit a case speaker to the asus board? some boards have them hardwired on the board and Asus don't tend to do this
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Old 25-12-2010, 11:25   #72
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did you fit a case speaker to the asus board? some boards have them hardwired on the board and Asus don't tend to do this
no ,i was not aware that asus had no speaker on the board ,there was a speaker wire connected from the case to the board along with the power/reset/hd led connections ,would that have been a case speaker ?
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if its red and black cable 4 pins long one wire either end then yes
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if its red and black cable 4 pins long one wire either end then yes
that's correct ,

My other son 19yrs has just informed us that he wants to build one now ,he's doing a computer forensics degree so he wants quite a powerfull machine, so we are going to start looking in the new year for his requirements ,one thing i will defo do is get most if not all parts from novatech as the cpu and replacement motherboard we arrived when let down from amazon arrived in under 24 hrs this week ,they use parcel force which have a very good record for delivery on time in my experience,ensuring that my young son had a working pc for today
so big to novatech and parcel force i was very impresssed
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Old 25-12-2010, 11:48   #75
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you could also buy a pre assembled bundle from Novatech so this wont happen again lol

I bought one not long ago cuz it had to be built quickly I didnt want to risk any DOA components ( of course there is no guarantee but they should at least make sure it posts before they ship it)

the whole system was built in 15 minutes and ready to go an hour after that
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