[Update] BNP on Question Time this week - Page 5

**Hugh** · 28-09-2009, 12:25

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Doesn't look very dark in the picture. Link to story. Just who did he think that he was about to shake hands with? Idi Amin?

When Nick Griffin shared a stage with David Duke, that was all right, was it? And when he visited Libya on a fundraising trip in 1988 at Colonel Gadafi's expense (just before the Lockerbie bombing), was that OK too?

Who did Nick think he was shaking hands with?

nomadking · 28-09-2009, 13:32

a) Only one of them was Foreign Secretary.
b) Then both should face the same level of criticism. You cannot single out members of the BNP for criticism for who they meet/associate with, unless you are prepared to see the same criticism levelled against those on the Left and the large(too many to even attempt to list) number of undesirables that they are happy to support.

As you pointed out, Lockerbie happened after the meeting and there are those(not members of BNP), who say that Libya wasn't responsible.

Xaccers · 28-09-2009, 13:43

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Originally Posted by nomadking

a) Only one of them was Foreign Secretary.
b) Then both should face the same level of criticism. You cannot single out members of the BNP for criticism for who they meet/associate with, unless you are prepared to see the same criticism levelled against those on the Left and the large(too many to even attempt to list) number of undesirables that they are happy to support.

As you pointed out, Lockerbie happened after the meeting and there are those(not members of BNP), who say that Libya wasn't responsible.

Hang on, you're the one criticising Jack Straw, but you're yet to criticise Nick Griffin for meeting the man who helped fund and train the IRA in their attacks killing Brits. Lybia isn't considered bad just for Lockerbie you know, or didn't you?

**Damien** · 28-09-2009, 13:43

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Originally Posted by nomadking

b) Then both should face the same level of criticism. You cannot single out members of the BNP for criticism for who they meet/associate with, unless you are prepared to see the same criticism levelled against those on the Left and the large(too many to even attempt to list) number of undesirables that they are happy to support..

Actually it's more complicated than that. As a member of the government Jack Straw has to meet people for his job. Some people in the world are not nice, but they govern countries and it's sometimes in our interest to engage with these nations. It was never the case they shared ideologies and decided to meet, they would not meet outside of government.

The BNP choose to share platforms with these people without such cause.

28-09-2009, 21:22

Get them on there and fast as because lets be honest we all know they are hot air and not much else so lets get them in the public eye lets see them and ghear them and let the people know who exactly they will be voting for. They are a legal party and as such have as much right to be on the show as anyone else from any other political party. Half the reason the bnp do as well as they do is because the public hardly gets to see them or hear them and see them for what they are.

Yes i know there are routine stories in the media but the fact is more and more people in the UK simply don't trust what they hear or see on the media we have no trust in any of them anymore. I don't know the guys name but if we can nominate the member of the bnp that goes on i nominate the complete utter brain dead chimp that attempted to get votes in south leicestershire recently because anyone thinking of voting for the bnp would be put off in a fast second after hearing him.

punky · 09-10-2009, 00:39

Just heard on QuestionTime that Nick Griffin will be on in 2 weeks time. Should be interesting.

There was a mixed reaction in the studio although the noes were probably greater in number.

Should be interesting. I don't think they mentioned who else would be on.

lucy7 · 09-10-2009, 08:28

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Originally Posted by soicky

Entertainment wise this will be a good episode to watch. I can just see David trying to calm the crowd down while Nick's security people looking for the exit.

I agree.

When he announced it at the end of last nights show, the audiences reaction spoke volumes.

I am sure it will be the most watched Question Time ever.

**Damien** · 09-10-2009, 09:33

He won't be awful. He will appear responsible and simply anti-PC. He will attempt to frame the debate in his own context. Instead of wanting an all-White Britain, their party policy, he will state 'I just want to stop immigration, is that racist'? Cue applause and morons using it as evidence the BNP are victims of PC madness.

09-10-2009, 11:43

I am sure he will be getting some extra media training and i am also sure if any other panelist has half a brain they can provoke some truth from him. Jack Straw will be on that show so lets hope there are others who can push him a bit. Loved Ian hislop on last nights though

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soicky · 09-10-2009, 19:13

The whole panel can be BNP members and we can let the audience expose the BNP for what they are. It's not rocket science.

**Maggy** · 09-10-2009, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Damien

He won't be awful. He will appear responsible and simply anti-PC. He will attempt to frame the debate in his own context. Instead of wanting an all-White Britain, their party policy, he will state 'I just want to stop immigration, is that racist'? Cue applause and morons using it as evidence the BNP are victims of PC madness.

I don't understand this blind spot you have about the BNP getting exposure Damien.The more they have the better in my opinion and Dimbleby is too astute to allow that scenario to happen.He's not above intervening and asking searching questions of his own when it is merited.

Flyboy · 10-10-2009, 01:03

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Originally Posted by punky

Just heard on QuestionTime that Nick Griffin will be on in 2 weeks time. Should be interesting.

There was a mixed reaction in the studio although the noes were probably greater in number.

Should be interesting. I don't think they mentioned who else would be on.

Dimbleby said that Jack Straw will be on as well.

soicky · 10-10-2009, 01:16

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

Dimbleby said that Jack Straw will be on as well.

Isn't he on next week or do i need to get some sleep?

Flyboy · 10-10-2009, 01:36

No, I definitely heard him say that Justice Secretary Jack Straw would be on with the little toad. If you watched last night's sow, did you see the guy in the audience that looked and talked just like Griffin, it was uncanny.

soicky · 10-10-2009, 01:45

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

No, I definitely heard him say that Justice Secretary Jack Straw would be on with the little toad. If you watched last night's sow, did you see the guy in the audience that looked and talked just like Griffin, it was uncanny.

yep iplayer confirms you are correct. Watched most of the show and don't think i remember him, must have missed that part.