Ronnie biggs refused but now granted parole

[jamiefrost]

The home secretary(or what ever the equivalent is now) no longer has the legal right for current cases, but still has the right to decide for convictions the made before the law changed.

JJ

Tell me Arthur would you extend this to every criminal OAP currently banged up and in failing health or just to this particular bit of ****?

What is so special about this particular turd that you think he deserves preferential treatment.

And if you think he's some sort of Robin Hood I reckon you are far wide of the mark because he didn't steal from the rich to give to the poor..and even if he did he would still deserve the prison sentence he is currently serving.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Your wrong, his lawyer has said that a power that JS has used, is no longer legal, but anyway, l give up.

Lawyers are completely impartial, obviously, and would never say anything untrue........

[SMG]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Tell me Arthur would you extend this to every criminal OAP currently banged up and in failing health or just to this particular bit of ****?

What is so special about this particular turd that you think he deserves preferential treatment.

And if you think he's some sort of Robin Hood I reckon you are far wide of the mark because he didn't steal from the rich to give to the poor..and even if he did he would still deserve the prison sentence he is currently serving.

OOOOH, Thats a bit strong Maggy, but dead right. OAP or not, the law should take its course. This guy`s no Robin Hood, he`s a thug, a thief, someone who broke the law then took the mickey out of the justice system by running to a country where he wouldn't be deported from. He lived the good life instead of doing his bird. Ill health or not, if he lives long enough to serve his sentence, fine, if he dies in prison, tuff.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

thats very sentimental wishy washy liberal thinking .
if you do the crime you must do the time.

Yes and flicking threw The Sun at work earlier that well known right winger and general prat Jon Gaunt even said he should be let out, it's quite an achievment to be to the right of him...

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Seriously are some of you saying that as long as you can evade justice for long enough you should get let off with reduced sentence because thats how it is coming across.

No what some of us appear to be saying is that he is all but dead, even one of the Krays was released on compassionate grounds at the end. Jack Straw is trying to appear to be tough on crime, well keeping a half dead old man locked up doesn't prove that, keeping the **** that tortured those French kids to death after getting early release would have proved it better imo

[tweetypie/8]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This is the most scandolous decision, that Jack Straw has ever made, The decision has to be political, and the poor guy will almost certainly die in prison.

He cannot fend for himself, and has to have 24 hour care, He commited a crime 30 years ago, someone died which was sad, but to be held behind bars for this crime, which other sickos get ten years, child murderers get a smack on the wrist with trival sentences, and Peados are allowed to walk the street, is unforgiveable. The Labour government is a disgrace.

couldnt agree more.

[jamiefrost]

Originally Posted by tweetypie/8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu
This is the most scandolous decision, that Jack Straw has ever made, The decision has to be political, and the poor guy will almost certainly die in prison.

He cannot fend for himself, and has to have 24 hour care, He commited a crime 30 years ago, someone died which was sad, but to be held behind bars for this crime, which other sickos get ten years, child murderers get a smack on the wrist with trival sentences, and Peados are allowed to walk the street, is unforgiveable. The Labour government is a disgrace.

couldnt agree more.

Does this means every seriuosly ill person in jail should be let out? He was given the going rate for the crime he committed when he was sentenced.

Are you saying beacuse he absconded for all of those years we should apply current standards?

If the situation was reversed and currently every prisoner had to serve there full sentace would it be OK for him to server the other 20 years. Or would that be 'unfair' too.

JJ

As far as i am concerned all criminals should serve the full sentence they are given and no one should be released earlier then their sentence. But the way people are calling for this particular person to be released amazes me and i don't get it because this is not some nice person wrongly persecuted he is ****.

He was a career criminal who got caught he escaped only giving himself up when the money ran out and then comes back not because of any good reason no attack of remorse or anything just more self interst in getting the best care he could. So he stays right where he is till either he serves his full sentence or he dies.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I will say this one more time, What is the point of keeping a guy in prison, when he cannot fend for himself, he needs care, in a home, he is not a threat to society, like some people that go up before a parole board. If he was released, then that would save the tax payer thousands of pounds, the son has offered to care for him.

I don't think any OAP, should be banged up, although if they were in prison, they would be well looked after, than being on the outside, and inside no one would give them a hiding, as they have respect in prison.

[jamiefrost]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I will say this one more time, What is the point of keeping a guy in prison, when he cannot fend for himself, he needs care, in a home, he is not a threat to society, like some people that go up before a parole board. If he was released, then that would save the tax payer thousands of pounds, the son has offered to care for him.

I don't think any OAP, should be banged up, although if they were in prison, they would be well looked after, than being on the outside, and inside no one would give them a hiding, as they have respect in prison.

Does this means OAPs are free to commit any crime the feel like with out fear of punishment?

Or all OAPs angels who would never ever commit a crime.

JJ

Originally Posted by jamiefrost

Does this means OAPs are free to commit any crime the feel like with out fear of punishment?

Or all OAPs angels who would never ever commit a crime.

JJ

It could be a way of solving prison overcrowding - anyone due for a custodial sentence would just need to leg it & stay away until they were of pensionable age - automatic free pardon, job done

[jamiefrost]

If it ever came about, then no need for a pension just a short trip down to your local bank make a withdrawl, flash the bus pass to the police and jobs a good'n



JJ

[joglynne]

Originally Posted by homealone

It could be a way of solving prison overcrowding - anyone due for a custodial sentence would just need to leg it & stay away until they were of pensionable age - automatic free pardon, job done

Or it could encourage the rise of a Hell' Grannies movement. As I always wanted to grow old disgracefully, it would be useful to live in Arthur's world where you only had to serve time if you were young and fit.

As far as Biggs is concerned I don't see why he should be released. Had he stayed in prison rather than escaping his time in goal would have come to an end years ago. He is in prison now because of his own actions and I have no sympathy for him.

[Hom3r]

Jack Mills, who was 58 at the time of robbery, never fully recovered from his injuries, and never returned to work. In 1970 he died of leukemia [1] which an inquest confirmed, perhaps unsurprisingly, was unrelated to his injuries. As an innocent victim in such an infamous crime, he is very often mentioned when the subject is raised in the press.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Mills_(train_driver)

[Arthurgray50@blu]

As far as l am aware, tomorrow Monday RB's son is going to the High Court to get permission to launch a private prosecution against Jack Straw, for false imprisonment, due to his failing health, and other things etc.

I believe, l said this in an earlier comment.