STM rates VM expect you to keep to

[Greasemark]

yes but leave to where, I notice a lot of users have the option of alternate providers, my alternative is adsl at less than 512 due to distance from exchange?


How lucky for you with bolton cable, would you go to adsl with bottom end speeds?

Originally Posted by Greasemark

yes but leave to where, I notice a lot of users have the option of alternate providers, my alternative is adsl at less than 512 due to distance from exchange?


How lucky for you with bolton cable, would you go to adsl with bottom end speeds?

You'd have to be very far from the exchange to see those speeds.

[Greasemark]

interesting, considering what BT have provided for mrs greasemark. hmmmmm

I can only get 3Mb max on adsl, adsl MAX, ADSL+2 so vm are the only option for me

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Greasemark

yes but leave to where, I notice a lot of users have the option of alternate providers, my alternative is adsl at less than 512 due to distance from exchange?


How lucky for you with bolton cable, would you go to adsl with bottom end speeds?

So I take it you have asked your altrnative ISP what they can supply to you or do you just believe what VM say to you when you tell them you're goig off elsewhere?

As I said in a previous post VM told me I would only get 2Mbps via a BT line, that was totally wrong and (I presume) just to get me to stay with them.

The bottom line is that VM should come clean and tell their customers EXACTLY what they can expect from them.

I've already said this about ALL ISP'S so I am not getting just at VM, but their advertising is the worst for being misleading.

BTW I am on ADSL now and enjoying better speeds than VM could suppLY!

Originally Posted by Greasemark

interesting, considering what BT have provided for mrs greasemark. hmmmmm

I'd go to http://www.samknows.com click availability checker and see how far you are from the exchange.

[Greasemark]

sorry didnt mean to hijack this thread

I know, its just infuriating that in this wonderful broadband revolution, everyone is potentially limited, same old story, the dodgy few get away with unlimited access, the legit users get penalised (kinda software protection issue again). Anyroad, My wife has her own connection (due to a bad experience with wireless) using BT, we are probably only 2 miles from exchange, however the max we can get on her connection is that old 512. Sky have offered 2, but with the bad press i have seen on their connection, I decided to stick with Virgin. Virgin offers the best all round speeds but its such a shame that we cant utilise the tech to its max. Whats the point of fuel injection if its governed.

---------- Post added at 14:53 ---------- Previous post was at 14:52 ----------

Summary of results for xxxxxxxxx / ME8xxx at 14:53 11/07/2008
Congratulations, you are in a broadband enabled area.
However, there is another service on your phone line (e.g. ADSL, LLU, DACS, etc) that would prevent you from ordering a new ADSL connection.

The following services are available in your location:
BT Wholesale ADSL
BT Wholesale ADSL Max
BT Wholesale SDSL
AOL LLU
Bulldog LLU
TalkTalk (CPW) LLU
Sky Broadband / Easynet LLU
Tiscali LLU
Orange LLU (Formerly Wanadoo)
Virgin Media (Cable)

Standard ADSL RAG results
You cannot receive 2Mbps ADSL
You cannot receive 1Mbps ADSL
You can receive 512kbps ADSL
You can receive 256kbps ADSL
Please select the options on the left for more information about broadband availability at your location.


Youd think given distance and all, we could get a fairly good adsl service, but apparently not

[piggy]

Originally Posted by Greasemark

No, you miss my point, my service is 99% never at the advertised rates, because of oversubscription, i "never" receive the quality of service I think im entitled to and I have to say, its all since good old STM. I am a loyal Cable customer, have been for at least 7 years, STM is an additional insult should i ever decide to download 20 albums off my itunes. Why dont you stop trawling the forums and picking on those that are saddened or disgruntled by the service they receive. You dont like these threads, dont read em.

And dont be so critical of others, especially as you seem to be in the minority in this thread. STM is here to stay eh? so is pollution, world hunger, war, alcoholic kids, it doesn't stop people moaning about it. And to touch on the Go elsewhere arguement, as I said, virgin cable is my only cable option, you remember when BT had the telephone franchise, how we moaned (or maybe your not old enough) telling me to switch to a couple of tin cans with string is just silly, you get my point? Thankee Sai, and may your days be long and your nights short.

i am old enough (unfortunately) but as i work for virgin i just follow there culture/values "IF YOU DONT LIKE IT GET OUT" and thats just for the staff.

[broadbandbug]

512Kb/s was the old limit for anyone that was more than about 4KM from the Exchange.
With RADSL (The new noise limits BT adhere to) that would likely go up to around 1.5 - 2Mb/s..

I get 1.5Mb/s where as previously I could only get 512Kb/s and before that I was classed as a failed install as SNR was too high

[dj rob st]

id rather get stm, or alter my constant downloads behavior to different times than be on another isp and always think theys a risk they just cut me off for taking the **** with 24/7 torrents , i only download after 12-10am and when i play my games it always works alright, me pc being on then dont bother me and everything comes down fast enough. i was 4mb and they put me on 10mb for no extra and even though i cut down my hours by more than half i still get as much downloaded and uploaded now with the speed upgrade

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Greasemark

sorry didnt mean to hijack this thread

I know, its just infuriating that in this wonderful broadband revolution, everyone is potentially limited, same old story, the dodgy few get away with unlimited access, the legit users get penalised (kinda software protection issue again). Anyroad,

Now just hang on there. Are you saying I'm one of the "DODGY FEW" because I would take that as a personal attack.

What I am is a person who expects to receive a service that I pay for! VM could not do that so I have gone to a provider that can and that provider has been clear and transparent on what they can provide.

I don't winge about VM any more as I have changed. VM would appear to me the worst ISP in the UK. Their recent ads on TV pour scourn on ADSL but they cannot seem to provide the service they offer mainly due to oversubscription.

[Greasemark]

no pippin i dont expect you have one of dem cloned modems. keywords - unlimited access

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Greasemark

no pippin i dont expect you have one of dem cloned modems. keywords - unlimited access

No I don't have a cloned modem. I pay for what I get and as such I expect to get what I pay for! Hence I have gone from VM to another ISP -Simple!

Have you checked with other ISP'S to see what you can expect via ADSL. I think not as a quote of 512Mbps seems rather small in this day and age.

[Rone]

Virgin are pretty smug because they know they have the cable monopoly, ADSL is still pretty second rate speedwise for a lot of people.
Never mind any download limitations.

[Greasemark]

Originally Posted by pippincp

No I don't have a cloned modem. I pay for what I get and as such I expect to get what I pay for! Hence I have gone from VM to another ISP -Simple!

Have you checked with other ISP'S to see what you can expect via ADSL. I think not as a quote of 512Mbps seems rather small in this day and age.

see above, i already have a bt service too. Im not sure where you get that im personally attacking you, speedreader maybe? Im not attacking anyone, im too long in the tooth to do that. Anyhoo, ive about reached the end of my justification container, i didnt think voiceing an opinion (original post) could create so much anger and lecturing, so ill just retire to oblivion again, go to work tonite and send out emergency vehicles to the ungrateful.

Peace out