still racist

[nicke261192]

I dont think it is right to search black people there are a few in my school who are very nice and kind but whenever i am walking home i go past a muslim school where i find most of the parents very rude and they nudge past you. Im not being racist but it seems the majority of them are not nice

I think that the police should search anyone they genuinely believe may be involved in, or equipped for, crime. That, in my opinion, should be the only criterion.

Whether the suspect is Black, Asian, Oriental, Caucasian or Mixed should not make any difference - there actually are bad examples of each racial group present in society, and dealing with that should ignore their racial background & just focus on the effect of their behaviour, imo.

Of course, there are a vast majority of people who are good, whatever their racial background, and I hope they can continue to treat each other with mutual respect.

It would be a good thing if the Police were allowed to deal with things without the onus of 'performance monitoring', in my opinion, as I cannot help thinking this tends to encourage dealing with the symptoms, rather than the causes, of crime ???

[Womble]

Originally Posted by jkat

racism, direct or indirect, intended or unintended.

Does that include so-called positive racism??

Another bleeding heart thread I see, It would interesting to see how many stopped where carrying drugs/knives etc.
Funny how they always moan about the police, if they where so well behaved there wouldn't be any need for operation Trident would there!!

My good friend worked in Brixton nick as a civvy doing the admin. He say "Blacks" made up 70% of crime in that area. Any number of the bleeding hearts on here will tell you that they only make up 5% of the population. Doesn't quite add up does it?

Originally Posted by Womble

Does that include so-called positive racism??

Another bleeding heart thread I see, It would interesting to see how many stopped where carrying drugs/knives etc.
Funny how they always moan about the police, if they where so well behaved there wouldn't be any need for operation Trident would there!!

My good friend worked in Brixton nick as a civvy doing the admin. He say "Blacks" made up 70% of crime in that area. Any number of the bleeding hearts on here will tell you that they only make up 5% of the population. Doesn't quite add up does it?

Ah so those of us who think everyone should be treated the same regardless of colour or creed or ethnic origin are bleeding hearts.Funnily enough I thought I was a democrat believing in democracy and equality for all, which I'm very proud of.Anyone know the term for those who don't believe in democracy and equality for all?

Originally Posted by Womble

Does that include so-called positive racism??

Another bleeding heart thread I see, It would interesting to see how many stopped where carrying drugs/knives etc.
Funny how they always moan about the police, if they where so well behaved there wouldn't be any need for operation Trident would there!!

My good friend worked in Brixton nick as a civvy doing the admin. He say "Blacks" made up 70% of crime in that area. Any number of the bleeding hearts on here will tell you that they only make up 5% of the population. Doesn't quite add up does it?

well the last time I visited Brixton market there were an awful lot of stalls that were Afro/Caribbean, and a lot of people would go there, because of that, similarly Deptford High St....

- what where the figures for Camberwell & Peckham?

[Womble]

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/73257.html

An interesting piece

The Commission on Integration and Cohesion found that 68 percent of respondents thought there were "too many migrants in Britain," and 47 percent of Asians and 45 percent of black respondents shared the view. Also, 56 percent of people said they thought that immigrants, asylum seekers and refugees get priority in housing, health services and education.

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

Ah so those of us who think everyone should be treated the same regardless of colour or creed or ethnic origin are bleeding hearts.

Not at all, I also believe that.
I have issue with the level of crime in the black community, and it annoys me when they moan when they get nicked.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Womble

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/73257.html

An interesting piece

Indeed, it shows just how ignorant people are with regards to immigration and asylum. I guess we have the tabloids to thank for that.

Originally Posted by Womble

Not at all, I also believe that.
I have issue with the level of crime in the black community, and it annoys me when they moan when they get nicked.

You do realise the report linked to in the original post wasn't made by blacks moaning they got nicked or stopped and searched right don't you?

[Womble]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Indeed, it shows just how ignorant people are with regards to immigration and asylum. I guess we have the tabloids to thank for that..

I think it shows, that even "established" immigrants are alarmed at the level of immigration at present. My god everywhere I go is awash with bloody Poles and assorted eastern euros

Originally Posted by Xaccers

You do realise the report linked to in the original post wasn't made by blacks moaning they got nicked or stopped and searched right don't you?

Black people are six times more likely to be subjected to stop-and-search operations than other ethnic groups and nearly twice as likely to enter the CJS as a result, the Home Affairs Committee found.

Thats because they are 6 times more likely to be carrying drugs knives etc. So whats everyones point?

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Womble

Thats because they are 6 times more likely to be carrying drugs knives etc.

Where's your source for that from?

To be perfectly honest i am sick and tired of hearing this "racism" crap all the time. Why is it racist to stop and search i have been stopped and searched i didn't have a problem with it in fact was happy to help the police have a hard enough job to do without being stuck with this sort of rubbish. Also i find it a bit of a laugh when "ethnic minorities" complain of racism from the white population and yet in any professional field there is a serperate organisation for blacks (such as the black police officers federation or whatever it is called). I am all for integration and all getting along but organisations that exist to highlight racism in my opinion create more hassle then they resolve.

[jkat]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

To be perfectly honest i am sick and tired of hearing this "racism" crap all the time. Why is it racist to stop and search i have been stopped and searched i didn't have a problem with it in fact was happy to help the police have a hard enough job to do without being stuck with this sort of rubbish. Also i find it a bit of a laugh when "ethnic minorities" complain of racism from the white population and yet in any professional field there is a serperate organisation for blacks (such as the black police officers federation or whatever it is called). I am all for integration and all getting along but organisations that exist to highlight racism in my opinion create more hassle then they resolve.

so there is no such thing as racism?
and what hassle is that?

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Womble

I think it shows, that even "established" immigrants are alarmed at the level of immigration at present.

Yes, alarmed because of their ignorance of the situation. The sort of people who think that if nothing is done, we'll have a million new people every leap year for ever and ever until the country is so full people start falling off the white cliffs of Dover

Originally Posted by Womble

My god everywhere I go is awash with bloody Poles and assorted eastern euros

Just think of what work wouldn't be done if they weren't here.
Good isn't it?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Just think of what work wouldn't be done if they weren't here.
Good isn't it?

Yep it's fantastic, we import workers when there are over a million people sitting on the dole

[dev]

Originally Posted by jkat

so there is no such thing as racism?
and what hassle is that?

in the case of stop n search, probably no. just because a black person is stopped doesn't mean it was because of their colour!

would you call setting targets to have minimum levels of black people working in higher paid jobs racist? i know i would, reason: race is being used to distinguish people.

[jkat]

Originally Posted by dev

would you call setting targets to have minimum levels of black people working in higher paid jobs racist? i know i would, reason: race is being used to distinguish people.

no i would call that putting things right