how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
20-05-2007, 17:44
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Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
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Originally Posted by lezwez
So can anybody give me a valid reason to why they support this shapping stuff?
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Would you rather have a poxy download limit, or be free to use or abuse the rest of the time as you like?
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20-05-2007, 17:50
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Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
I have been generally in favour of hitting services like p2p and throttling bandwidth for just those services. In the last few weeks I have seen my speed reduced to below 3MBit on what should be a 10MBit connection. I feel aggrieved because I am not a heavy downloader I must have just hit their limit.
I decided I'd had enough - there is no point having a fast connection then being told you can't use it much. Web browsing and email is much the same at most decent broadband speeds, so what's the 10/20Mbit connection for exactly?
I signed up with Be Unlimited and within 10 days was online - and I'm getting just over a 20MBit connection for £24.99 a month. Be support is superb and there simply aren't any slowdowns or traffic shaping. The whole online experience feels very snappy and fast.
Interestingly a while ago I tried Sky Broadband - my exchange supports Sky & Be LLU - and only got 6.5MBit. I called NTL Retentions and they agreed to price match at £10 a month for 10MBit. Still not good enough, though, so I stayed a while and then went to Be.
Unfortunately for a lot of Virgin Media punters who have a VM phone line, a change to a BT phone line is needed for Be or any other ADSL service.
Check if your exxchange is enabled by visiting www.samknows.co.uk - if you have a BT number to enter (even a neighbour's) it will tell you how far from the exchange you live (as the crow flies). I am 825 metres, hence my decent speed.
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20-05-2007, 18:08
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Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
Most will still have a BT line from before Cable was here, and I read on forums even BE's that the service is great and fast at the start of your contract then it goes downhill.
---------- Post added at 19:08 ---------- Previous post was at 19:07 ----------
Nope, I would rather is was way it used to be with TW-BY and 10meg until Oct 2006 went it started to go pearshaped.
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20-05-2007, 19:45
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Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
Shaping is a complete joke, 750MB for 4MBit users is rediculous, I wouldn't mind if it's 2GB which to me sounds reasonable enough.
I have an XBOX360 and I like to download demos and content from market place, as well as legitimate (ie: NOT PIRATED) video content which can add up.
Last night after work I decided to download the Halo 3 BETA which was just under 900MB, this means my connection speeds were cut in half, and considering there are two computers & two XBOX 360's in this house it means there is next to no bandwidth to share, mostly it affects XBOX Live.
What happens when Microsoft launch their X360 video on demand service in the UK? It means that between the hours of 4PM and 12AM it will be near enough useless because I won't be able to stream a legitimate and paid for HD movie, or tv shows without getting punished!
Ever since the VM relaunch I've found the broadband service to be getting worse, very very quickly.
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20-05-2007, 21:04
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Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
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Would you rather have a poxy download limit, or be free to use or abuse the rest of the time as you like?
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thats not a valid answer for your support
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20-05-2007, 21:39
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Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
None of them have a valid answer.
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20-05-2007, 21:41
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Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
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20-05-2007, 21:44
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Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
You need help ?
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20-05-2007, 21:45
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Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
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sorry, I was using my connection to it's full extent, to my huge satisfaction, and hadn't noticed someone had questioned whether that was possible 
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20-05-2007, 21:46
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Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
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No, thanks - I'm fine.
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20-05-2007, 21:47
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Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
4meg is a dodle even with too many customers try 10meg or even 20meg and see if your happy.
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20-05-2007, 21:49
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Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
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are you in the wrong thread? 
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20-05-2007, 21:51
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Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
Are you trying to start trouble, I read the topic as sarsasm.
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20-05-2007, 21:53
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Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
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Originally Posted by helmutcheese
4meg is a dodle even with too many customers try 10meg or even 20meg and see if your happy.
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Which is why I am on 4meg, with consistent (nearly 4mb) speeds, and very happy with it - it is fit for (my) purpose - heavy browsing, email, youtube, occasional downloads (very rarely more than 3gig a day, running in the background).
Works for me, sorry yours doesn't for you.
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20-05-2007, 21:54
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Re: how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we LIKE SHAPING
10meg used to work prefect with TW-BY thats all most are getting at.
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