HELP! iMac, cable modem won't go. - Page 5

Chris W · 22-02-2007, 17:22

Nope- provisioning a new device only applies when using a set top box connection, stripes is connecting through a cable modem.

NTLVictim · 22-02-2007, 17:26

Yes, but if there was no need to clone anything, this thread would not exist...

I still think the STB may be involved in getting snotty with different IP addresses because we have heard nothing to the contrary, no February-joining VM acolytes have raised their heads above the parapet on this thread...

Any VM techies out there? echo, echo, echo...

Dark Fiber · 22-02-2007, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTLVictim

Yes, but if there was no need to clone anything, this thread would not exist...

If people didn't think there was a _need_ to clone something, this thread would not be as long ...

NTLVictim · 22-02-2007, 17:37

Dark, this about ntl..we ain't talking about human beings here!

monkey2468 · 22-02-2007, 17:44

Stripes, not sure if this has already been asked, but do you have a firewall installed? If so try uninstalling it.

Dark Fiber · 22-02-2007, 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTLVictim

Dark, this about ntl..we ain't talking about human beings here!

Human cloning - you are cynical

I'm inclined to blame the VM/ntl connection but that's because I'm loath to admit that sometimes nowadays Macs don't "just work"

I hope prodding the OS in the way that Apple themselves suggest will do the trick. We Mac enthusiasts want to be shielded from the awesome power of Unix by the Mac GUI. If we can't solve this without "sudo" then we're in deep trouble!

PS His OS X firewall shouldn't be on by default

werdna12 · 22-02-2007, 18:25

I don't know if this has been mentioned already in this thread, but I would invest in a wireless router.

Late last year I purchased my first ever mac. The Mac Airport inside my Imac Pro detected the wireless router straight away and without any setting up I was up and running on the world wide web.

It was very simple all I had to do is make sure that airport was running in preferences and then click on the wireless icon near the clock & select my wireless network from the list.

Also allows you to use your mac anywhere in the house.

NTLVictim · 23-02-2007, 07:56

Stripes has a Belkin router on it's way, dunno if it's wireless or not..still, running a few cables in the meantime is no big deal.

I've just realised why Belkin is Mac approved..it's running the airport chipset, right?

stripes · 23-02-2007, 07:59

Right. Good morning, all. Here are my overnight thoughts and responses to your posts last evening.

TECHNICAL.

ChrisW. Tried sudo if config en0 ether 213.xxx.xxx.173 [enter] (xxx for security reasons)
password: (typed the only one I know, i.e. mine) [enter]
ifconfig: malformed ether address
(then retried using what ntlvictim recommended, i.e.....
% sudo if config en0 ether (then what I think is a hex address from same Get Info panel on G3 - ) 00.05.02.xe.xx.xx (x security reasons)
[enter] (came back)
-bash: fg: %: no such job

So no great joy with that. Probably me.

And yes, I am expecting that belkin router this morning, so will read all the blurb v.carefully before doing anything with it. (Interested to see that you haven't ruled it out, though).

Don't understand your internal discussion re cloning etc., so ignoring it.

Monkey, no firewall, unless the Mac has something built-in, and I don't think it has.

Werdna, getting a non-wireless router this morning, but I fear a wireless one would really add to the potential problems!

BIZARRE ALTERNATIVES

If we can't solve this between us, with some of the best brains in cable/modem etc. technology (on your side of the fence, that is), then what do I do?

a) does anyone know the name of the Mr Big at ntl, and address? I will write to him direct (old-fashioned ink and paper) throwing myself on his mercy and begging for help.

b) does anyone (and I know this is probably against some rule or other) live within driving distance of NW9, and is willing to come round for a few hours on a payment-by-result basis for, say, ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£100 in crisp notes, to get this lot fixed? If so, Private Message me, and if the sum ain't enough, tell me what would be.

Responses on the Technical side: please remember that I am a VERY ordinary Joe. I might be able to type, and be reasonably articulate, but, like Manuel, I KNOW NOTHING. So please keep it simple!

Look forward to hearing from you.

Allen.

NTLVictim · 23-02-2007, 08:03

We are with you.

Graham M · 23-02-2007, 08:11

its

ifconfig

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if config

Dark Fiber · 23-02-2007, 08:25

I know this is very upsetting for you, and so many sources of advice must be a trial. We all want to help.

Have you tried the Apple way to force a DHCP lookup that I put forward?

If the router turns up, try using it out-of-the-box with no cloning. It's really just trying a third computer that hopefully may pick up the IP address without problems. (I have to say that if you already had a router, our advice would have been to remove it and connect the iMac directly to the modem!)

I'm going to shut up now- you want a resolution of your problem (while I'm actually trying to find out if there is a global problem with VM/ntl and Intel Macs)

NTLVictim · 23-02-2007, 08:41

I'll shut it as well, get back to us..for the record, I think cloning the MAC address of the G5 onto the belkin router will work.

Alright, I'm going...

stripes · 23-02-2007, 09:06

Thanks, as usual.

ntlvictim: it really is a source of comfort that interested and intelligent people are with me, and no, I am not being ironic. It helps.

zeph: yes, sorry, ifconfig. I was typing on 2 keyboards at the time.

dark: I'm pretty sure I've tried the DHCP lookup, but not in the sequence you defined, so I will shut this one down shortly and try it.

And yes, when the Belkin turns up I will first of all just plug it in without doing anything fancy to it.

Talk to you all later.

Allen.

melevittfl · 23-02-2007, 09:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by stripes

ChrisW. Tried sudo if config en0 ether 213.xxx.xxx.173 [enter] (xxx for security reasons)
password: (typed the only one I know, i.e. mine) [enter]
ifconfig: malformed ether address
(then retried using what ntlvictim recommended, i.e.....
% sudo if config en0 ether (then what I think is a hex address from same Get Info panel on G3 - ) 00.05.02.xe.xx.xx (x security reasons)
[enter] (came back)
-bash: fg: %: no such job

Hi,

In that first command that Chris gave you, you'll want to type the hex addresses, rather than the numeric IP address. That is, it should look like:
"sudo if config en0 ether 00:05:02:XE:XX:XX" (substitute the real values for the Xs as you did before and don't include the quotes).

The second time you ran the command, it looks like you included the "%" character. I think NTLVictim included that to show you what the command prompt looked like, but it wasn't meant to be part of the command itself.