Vote 2005, week 4 - new poll again!
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View Poll Results: Who will you vote for on May 5?
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Labour (18.92%, 25.64%, 22.41%)
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19.12% |
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Conservative (32.43%, 32.05%, 31.03%)
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22 |
32.35% |
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Liberal Democrat (29.73%, 23.08%, 27.59%)
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26.47% |
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Scot/Welsh/Irish/Green/UKIP/Other (8.11%, 5.13%, 1.72%)
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4.41% |
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Won't be voting (9.46%, 8.97%, 13.79%)
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11.76% |
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Undecided (1.35%, 5.13%, 3.45%)
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5.88% |
04-05-2005, 12:36
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Re: What happens if Tony Bliar loses his seat?
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Originally Posted by Nidge
No no no no, you've never had it so good, don't let the Tories get back into power for gods sake.
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you do realise that you said that out loud dont you!!
Never had it so good huh. Funny that, since savings interest is almost worthless, investment companies are closing their books and giving zero bonuses. I've been through 3 redundancy exercises in this government but never been through one before, council taxes go up and up, fuel costs a fortune, immigrants all over the place, crime on the increase, hospitals where you go for a minor operation and end up dying due to super bugs, pension funds collapsing.
And now the government wants us to work longer, why? becuase Gordon has swiped the pension fund money for other purposes and now cant sustain the fund.
Yeahhh its never been so ****e
Didnt you start the "Sign This, Fuel Prices" thread??? 
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04-05-2005, 13:04
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Re: What happens if Tony Bliar loses his seat?
Far be it from me to defend Labour, but here goes:
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since savings interest is almost worthless
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Loan interest, however, is historically low, which helps people with mortgages. Swings and roundabouts.
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investment companies are closing their books and giving zero bonuses
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People's houses have put on about 134% in value. Some investments perform better than others, that's the market for you.
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I've been through 3 redundancy exercises in this government but never been through one before
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Unemployment countrywide is historically low, well under 1m. More people have jobs than ever before.
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council taxes go up and up
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A tax introduced by the Tories.
The escalator was introduced by the Tories and scrapped by Labour.
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immigrants all over the place
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Why is this a problem?
1996 with Howard as Home Secretary - 30,000 asylum seekers
2004 with Howard in Opposition - 34,000 asylum seekers. Devastating!
Immigration is only a problem if you listen to the dog whistles of Howard and the Tory press.
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04-05-2005, 13:11
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Re: What happens if Tony Bliar loses his seat?
I'm so tempted to wade in, but I'm resisting! Can we keep this on topic please.
If all our political threads start naturally merging into the same topic, I'll just go ahead and merge 'em.
Now, what if Tone loses his seat?
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04-05-2005, 13:14
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Re: What happens if Tony Bliar loses his seat?
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Originally Posted by BBKing
Loan interest, however, is historically low, which helps people with mortgages. Swings and roundabouts.
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But doesnt help the older generation who dont have mortgages and may be preparing for retirement or have retired and now cant make ends meet as they are not getting the income they thought the would.
Also doent help those people that are locked into endowments who would have to pay a high MVA to get out.
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People's houses have put on about 134% in value. Some investments perform better than others, that's the market for you.
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means nothing as the house you buy has also gone up in value. It only ever helps if you sell and dont buy another house
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Originally Posted by BBKing
A tax introduced by the Tories.
The escalator was introduced by the Tories and scrapped by Labour.
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How much has tax on fuel risen in the past 7 years? Not that it matters as the government gets all of the money eventually
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Originally Posted by BBKing
Why is this a problem?
1996 with Howard as Home Secretary - 30,000 asylum seekers
2004 with Howard in Opposition - 34,000 asylum seekers. Devastating!
Immigration is only a problem if you listen to the dog whistles of Howard and the Tory press.
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Does that include the illegal ones??
+ with the EU recently getting larger, some who were asylum seekers are now here legally
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04-05-2005, 13:14
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Re: What happens if Tony Bliar loses his seat?
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A tax introduced by the Tories.
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And put up by Labour. Just think how much it would go up if they got away with re-assesing properties!
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Originally Posted by BBKing
The escalator was introduced by the Tories and scrapped by Labour.
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After increasing it from 2p to 6p for 2 years!
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Originally Posted by BBKing
Why is this a problem?
1996 with Howard as Home Secretary - 30,000 asylum seekers
2004 with Howard in Opposition - 34,000 asylum seekers. Devastating!
Immigration is only a problem if you listen to the dog whistles of Howard and the Tory press.
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Asylum seekers are not the same as immigrants.
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04-05-2005, 13:15
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Re: What happens if Tony Bliar loses his seat?
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Now, what if Tone loses his seat?
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his back side will get cold? 
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04-05-2005, 13:18
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Re: What happens if Tony Bliar loses his seat?
Can we stop with the politico stuff please!!! If you want to debate Council Tax, do it here:
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...960#post462960
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04-05-2005, 13:19
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Re: What happens if Tony Bliar loses his seat?
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Aw but it's my thread *has a paddy*
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04-05-2005, 13:22
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Re: What happens if Tony Bliar loses his seat?
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Aw but it's my thread *has a paddy*
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go on go on go on, i'll hold him
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04-05-2005, 14:18
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Re: What happens if Tony Bliar loses his seat?
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Originally Posted by Nidge
No no no no, you've never had it so good, don't let the Tories get back into power for gods sake.
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Someone with their eyes open, fab.  
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04-05-2005, 16:36
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Re: Vote 2005, week 4 - new poll again!
How about one more poll just before the big day?
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04-05-2005, 16:48
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Re: Vote 2005, week 4 - new poll again!
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That's actually an eminently sensible proposal Xacc. Glasses that shatter rather than shard - they've been trying to introduce them in Manchester and I'm all for it. Glassing of blokes and girls looks, anecdotally, to be on the increase. Course they could ban WKD instead! Never trust a drink that's blue (or a politician for that matter) - that's my motto!
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04-05-2005, 16:52
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Re: Vote 2005, week 4 - new poll again!
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How about one more poll just before the big day? |
Now, we don't want to get poll fatigue, do we? 
TBH there's little point, a new poll starting today is hardly likely to differ significantly from the exit poll we're going to run tomorrow, and won't be open long enough for the results to be meaningful.
If you haven't voted on the current poll, please do so quickly, it will close tomorrow morning!
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04-05-2005, 16:57
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Re: Vote 2005, week 4 - new poll again!
Ah right, didn't know we were doing an exit poll.
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04-05-2005, 16:59
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Re: Vote 2005, week 4 - new poll again!
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Ah right, didn't know we were doing an exit poll.
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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...8&postcount=30
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