What did hit the Pentagon?

[basa]

Originally Posted by Pierre

It would easily be cleared up.

this link is to a photo that was take by a security camera o/s the Pentagon. As the 'plane' exploded.

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/US/03/07...res/index.html

Assuming that the camera was there all the time where are the photos of the plane just "before" it hits the building?

It would have to have been a high speed camera to catch every millisecind of 'action' - not a 'slow' security camera. Nonetheless it doesn't answer the question definitely for me.

Assuming the aircraft was travelling c. 300mph it would travel 135 meters / sec.

The distance on the frame (from edge to impact) would be about 60m the time in frame would be approx. half a second. Easily missed.

[BBKing]

And in very small bits. Ask yourself the question 'what am I expecting to see?' and 'have I got my frame of reference right in this picture?'.

What would you expect to find if a largish plane hit a solid wall at several hundred mph? 'Rather small bits and a badly damaged wall' would be about right.

The conspiracy theory sites either don't have the photos of engines, wheels etc. that are freely available, or they try and make out they're not from 757s, like the RB211 compressor disc mentioned earlier. Consistency lacking a bit, there, either there's no wreckage, or the wreckage of something, depending on which site you read.

'Where's the Boeing?'
'There, there, there and there, in small bits'
'Oh... [pause]...That's not a Boeing, the bits are too small!'

Round and round we go.

[Russ]

I think what many people are expecting to see if not 'several large pieces' would be 'many, many small pieces', neither of which seem to be immediately apparent, hence another angle to the conspiracy theory.

Maybe George Bush is a alien! Explains a lot, (although it would have to be a pretty dumb alien)

Anyway that pentagon thing is a lot of rubbish!

Who would fire a missle, it cant be terrorists so it would be a country?

Why would a country fire a milsile?

Why would the usa cover it up?

I understand that common sense is pretty annoying but you cant always look for a hidden agenda all the time

Try telling the familys of those that where on the plane that it never happened

Originally Posted by Russ D

I think what many people are expecting to see if not 'several large pieces' would be 'many, many small pieces', neither of which seem to be immediately apparent, hence another angle to the conspiracy theory.

The photos are very selective and poor quality, also if the plane went 3 buildings in then most of the small parts of the plane would be buried in the debris.

You cant see the debris of the planes of the twin towers in most photographs

[TigaSefi]

Of the Moon conspiracy, is the American Flag still up on the moon?

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by TigaSefi

Of the Moon conspiracy, is the American Flag still up on the moon?

http://ncsdweb.ncsd.k1.wy.us/planetarium/flag.html

The flag should still be there. There is no weather to bother the flag, however, the surface of the moon is constantly being bombarded by micro meteorites which may be what causes the most damage to the flag or anything else on the moon. It is hard to say what effect the extreem temperatures have had on the flag.

[JediMaster]

RUSS D
So who planted that flag up there???
Ok, never mind.......

And how do we know there is a Flag on the Moon? lol
Ok I wont open that Can of Worms

Ok it is a Perfect Circle.. So maybe (just maybe) the USA fired it? Aiming for Flight 77 (if there was one) or some other target & it FAILED..

It cant be a PLANE..

• Had to fly a few Feet off the Ground to make that Hole.
• No marks on the Grass/Gardens outside the Pentagon (AKA The Triangle)

I found this INFO Mind Blowing



The date of the attack: 9/11 - 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.
September 11 has 9 letters and 2 numbers: 9+2=11.
The number 911 is the telephone number for emergencies in North America.
September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.
After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year.
March 11, 2002, marked 6 months since the attack, and fell in the 11th week of 2002.


The first plane to hit the towers was American Airlines Flight 11.
The Flight 11 call letters were AA11: A=1, A=1, AA=11.
Four of the hijackers on flight AA11 have the initials A. A. for their names: AA=11.
The fifth AA11 hijacker was the pilot, Mohamed Atta, 11 letters, and AA in last name.
Flight AA11 had 92 people on board - 9 + 2 = 11.
Flight AA11 had 11 crew members - 2 pilots and 9 flight attendants.
The target of Flight AA11 was in New York City -11 letters.
The State of New York was the 11th State added to the Union.
Manhattan Island was discovered on Sept. 11, 1609 by Henry Hudson -11 letters.
Trade Center is 11 letters, and Skyscrapers is 11 letters.
World Trade Center Towers is 22 letters - 2 x 11 =22.
The WTC Twin Towers - standing side by side, look like the number 11.
The WTC Towers are each 110-storeys high.
The first WTC tower hit (North Tower) collapses at 10:28 A.M. -1+2+8=11.
The 1st Fire Unit to arrive to the WTC towers was FDNY Unit 1. Unit 1 lost 11 firemen.
The WTC towers collapsed to a height of 11 stories.
After 99 days of burning, NYC declares the WTC fires are extinguished - 9 x 11 = 99.
The World Trade Center fires burn continuously for 99 days, between September 11, 2001 and
December 19, 2001. The World Trade Center fire is the longest burning commercial fire in U.S. history.
On September 7, 2002, NYC Medical Examiners announced the revised official
death toll from the World Trade Center attacks was 2,801 - (2+8+0+1 = 11).
On the morning of September 11, 2002 the names of 2,801 victims were read at a Ground Zero
Ceremony. It took 2 ½ hours to read all the names.

The plane that hit the Pentagon was United Airlines Flight 77 -11 x 7 =77.
Flight 77 - 65 on board - 6 + 5 = 11.
The target of Flight 77 was The Pentagon - 11 Letters.
One of the walls of The Pentagon collapses at 10:10 A.M.
According to the FBI, earlier terrorists originally planned to hijack 11 planes.
Thirty days after the attack, the FBI releases a Most Wanted Terrorist List with 22 names.
Mohammed, the prophet of the Muslim faith, died in 632 A.D. - 6+3+2=11.
The Taliban's Manual of Afghan Jihad (Holy War) is 11 volumes.
119 is the area code to Iraq/Iran - 1 + 1 + 9 = 11.
The League of Arab States is comprised of 22 Arab nations - 2 x 11 = 22.
The suspected base of the terrorists is Afghanistan - 11 Letters.
Osama bin Laden's birthplace is Saudi Arabia - 11 letters.
Ramzi Yousef - convicted of orchestrating the 1993 WTC attack - 11 Letters.
The Prime Minister of Israel - Ariel Sharon - 11 Letters.
Deputy PM, & Minister of Foreign Affairs for Israel - Shimon Peres - 11 Letters.

The President of the USA - George W. Bush - 11 letters.
The previous USA President - Bill Clinton - 11 letters.
The US Secretary of State - Colin Powell - 11 letters.
Independence Day in the USA is July 4th - 7 + 4 = 11.
The US President's plane is Air Force One - 11 letters.
George W. Bush's Air Force One is numbered "29000" on the tail - 2+9+0+0+0 = 11.
George W. Bush & Bob Beckwith (11 letters) Fireman #164 - 1+6+4 = 11.
George W. Bush & Saddam Hussein's "11 Long Years"

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Damien

Maybe George Bush is a alien! Explains a lot, (although it would have to be a pretty dumb alien)

More like a remote controlled android, whose speech circuit keep naffing up.

Anyway that pentagon thing is a lot of rubbish!

In your opinion - Although I admit a lot of people agree with you.

Who would fire a missle, it cant be terrorists so it would be a country?

Why can't it be terrorists?????

Why would a country fire a milsile?

That is assuming that it's not terrorists, which it probably is.

Why would the usa cover it up?

Well I can't answer that one. I can only theorise. If they say it's a plane they can say to Joe Public that they have increased airport security and this kind of thing wont happen again we can take measures to stop it.

However, if it was some kind of military hardware they would have to say to the public it was missile that terrorists bought and it could easily happen again and we wouldn't be able to stop it.

If you were in office what would you rather say?

I understand that common sense is pretty annoying but you cant always look for a hidden agenda all the time

Try telling the familys of those that where on the plane that it never happened

True, for it to be anything other than a plane all this would have had to be faked. Which I admit is extreme, but not impossible.

[TigaSefi]

*me gets a telescope to find the flag on the moon* I mean it can't be that hard can it ?

[danielf]

Originally Posted by JediMaster

I found this INFO Mind Blowing

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My surname has eleven letters... Does that mean I had something to do with it?

If you look for it, you will always find coincidences like this.

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by JediMaster

The date of the attack: 9/11 - 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.
September 11 has 9 letters and 2 numbers: 9+2=11.
.......

http://hometown.aol.com/davepawson/elevens.html

Oh my God! How worried should I be? There are 11 letters in the name "David Pawson!"
I'm going into hiding NOW. See you in a few weeks.

Wait a sec ... just realized "YOU CAN'T HIDE" also has 11 letters! What am I gonna do?
Help me!!! The terrorists are after me! ME! I can't believe it! Oh crud*, there must
be someplace on the planet Earth I could hide! But no ... "PLANET EARTH" has 11 letters, too!

Maybe Nostradamus can help me. But dare I trust him? There are 11 letters in "NOSTRADAMUS."
I know, the Red Cross can help. No they can't... 11 letters in "THE RED CROSS," can't trust
them. I would rely on self defense, but "SELF DEFENSE" has 11 letters in it, too! Can
someone help? Anyone? If so, send me email. No, don't... "SEND ME EMAIL" has 11 letters....

Will this never end? I'm going insane! "GOING INSANE???" Eleven letters!! Nooooooooooo!!!!!!

I guess I'll die alone, even though "I'LL DIE ALONE" has 11 letters.....

-- Dave

PS: America itself is doomed! Our Independence Day is July 4th ... 7/4 ... 7+4=11!

PPS: "HORSE MANURE*" has 11 letters also, so don't bother to tell me what this is.

[JediMaster]

Look at these images of the Grass & the Pentagon http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/pentalawn.html

[orangebird]

I reckon the Pentagon was bombed from the inside out, which is why the plane crashing into it was invented. How embarrassing would it be for US Security to admit terrorists got inside the Pentagon with explosives?

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by orangebird

I reckon the Pentagon was bombed from the inside out, which is why the plane crashing into it was invented. How embarrassing would it be for US Security to admit terrorists got inside the Pentagon with explosives?

So what happened to the plane?