15-03-2017, 21:38
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Re: Budget
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Interesting observation from the right-wing Spectator magazine: “This fiasco will be watched with amazement in European capitals. If Theresa May caves in under pressure, then her opponents in Brexit talks will apply pressure.”
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Caved in under pressure, or recognised the electoral arithmetic? If the latter, the EU are going to find her harder to deal with, not softer. She can't afford to come back from Brussels with a bad deal.
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15-03-2017, 21:45
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Re: Budget
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Caved in under pressure, or recognised the electoral arithmetic? If the latter, the EU are going to find her harder to deal with, not softer. She can't afford to come back from Brussels with a bad deal.
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Doesn't seem very 'tough' so far, a bit wibbly/wobbly if the Budget is anything to go by. We're more desperate for a deal than the EU. There's more of them too...
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16-03-2017, 13:58
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Re: Budget
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Nope, you still seem to be posting
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Ouch that hurt. Where did you get such a big handbag?
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17-03-2017, 12:56
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Re: Budget
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Ouch that hurt. Where did you get such a big handbag?
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If you thought that was big:
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17-03-2017, 16:21
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Re: Budget
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If you thought that was big:
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Hmmm, is that a big button or a very small laptop?
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17-03-2017, 21:45
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Re: Budget
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Originally Posted by Chris
Caved in under pressure, or recognised the electoral arithmetic? If the latter, the EU are going to find her harder to deal with, not softer. She can't afford to come back from Brussels with a bad deal.
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The electoral arithmetic is in her favour as long as Corbyn is opposition leader. She buckled as The Spectator knows.
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18-03-2017, 08:06
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Re: Budget
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Caved in under pressure, or recognised the electoral arithmetic? If the latter, the EU are going to find her harder to deal with, not softer. She can't afford to come back from Brussels with a bad deal.
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Pressure from her own MPs. The electoral consequences don't seem a problem, she could drown a kitten from the dispatch box and Corbyn wouldn't be able to gain from it.
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18-03-2017, 15:15
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Re: Budget
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Pressure from her own MPs. The electoral consequences don't seem a problem, she could drown a kitten from the dispatch box and Corbyn wouldn't be able to gain from it.
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Good one; PMSL!
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20-03-2017, 14:35
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Re: Budget
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Originally Posted by denphone
Good grief that is a fairly quick U-Turn Andrew.
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H'mmm. So if he hadn't changed his mind on this, he wouldn't be listening. Because he listened and kindly withdrew the measure, he's done a u-turn.
Seems like the politicians can't win either way. We should be giving credit to a party that listens to criticism, not ridiculing it.
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20-03-2017, 14:41
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Re: Budget
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H'mmm. So if he hadn't changed his mind on this, he wouldn't be listening. Because he listened and kindly withdrew the measure, he's done a u-turn.
Seems like the politicians can't win either way. We should be giving credit to a party that listens to criticism, not ridiculing it.
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No doubt withdrawing it is good but alas one suspects some other stealth taxes will be coming our way to replace it so perhaps its best for you to post your comments then about the chancellor of the exchequer OB.
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20-03-2017, 14:55
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Re: Budget
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No doubt withdrawing it is good but alas one suspects some other stealth taxes will be coming our way to replace it so perhaps its best for you to post your comments then about the chancellor of the exchequer OB.
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My comment was only on the U-turn comment, Den. What comes next remains to be seen, but remember he does actually have to balance the books. Fantasy economics is what Corbyn and his cronies stand for.
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20-03-2017, 15:02
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Re: Budget
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My comment was only on the U-turn comment, Den. What comes next remains to be seen, but remember he does actually have to balance the books. Fantasy economics is what Corbyn and his cronies stand for.
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We are not talking about the totally unelectable Corbyn as we are talking about the current incumbent's of 10 Downing Street OB unless you did not realise that.
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20-03-2017, 18:27
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Re: Budget
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We are not talking about the totally unelectable Corbyn as we are talking about the current incumbent's of 10 Downing Street OB unless you did not realise that.
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Which of course means that the books must be balanced. Stealth taxes are one answer, provided of course it can be squared with the manifesto!
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20-03-2017, 21:27
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Re: Budget
Putting the top rate of Income Tax back up to 50p would have wiped the smile off a few Tory MPs faces. They'd soon forget about the self employed then. Go on Philly go for it - you don't like them either !
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20-03-2017, 22:31
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Re: Budget
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Which of course means that the books must be balanced. Stealth taxes are one answer, provided of course it can be squared with the manifesto!
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Maybe ask Osborne to take on another job, that will generate more tax revenue!
The other side of the coin is spending. The new grammar schools look set to be booted into the long grass by Parliament so that saves a bit of dosh but not enough.
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