13-07-2011, 20:19
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Re: Football Season 2011/12
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Didn't you see this coming?
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13-07-2011, 20:28
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Re: Football Season 2011/12
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Give over with the criticism of the England male team. England winning the world cup would be comparable to Spurs winning the Premierleague except the Spurs players weren't boo'd off the pitch at the end of their campaign.
Too many England fans that have expectations above the roof.
Lastest transfer news
Corinthians make £35m bid for Man City's Carlos Tevez
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14117887.stm
Bendtner has options of staying in the Premierleague with a 12m move, possible clubs being Villa, Bolton, Newcastle and a few others... Presumably half of the league bar Chelsea and Man United
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For someone on astronomical amounts of money Tevez is nothing more then a selfish mercenary who only cares about himself.
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13-07-2011, 22:35
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Re: Football Season 2011/12
Liverpool have finally agreed a fee with Aston Villa for the transfer of Stuart Downing
Should be up on the official site shortly
medical is supposedly tomorrow
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13-07-2011, 22:37
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Re: Football Season 2011/12
Liverpool are making some odd buys at high prices this window...
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13-07-2011, 22:43
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Re: Football Season 2011/12
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Liverpool are making some odd buys at high prices this window...
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Odd buys? perhaps and I suppose the product of the "moneyball" way of doing things where the best candidates are determined on statistical analysis with a few other metrics behind the system such as age and resale value.
In terms of the transfer fees. What has been quoted in the media thus far is a long way from reality.
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14-07-2011, 11:09
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Re: Football Season 2011/12
What about last transfer window when they splashed out £35million on an injured player with barely 15 EPL goals to his name.
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14-07-2011, 11:17
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Re: Football Season 2011/12
They are paying far too much. £20 million for Downing? It's insanity.
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14-07-2011, 11:29
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Re: Football Season 2011/12
Go Go Liverpool! Another flop season incoming then.
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15-07-2011, 00:44
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Re: Football Season 2011/12
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They are paying far too much. £20 million for Downing? It's insanity.
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They've spent a combined £75 million on Carroll, Henderson and Downing.
I didn't think it would be possible to spend so much money for such average players.
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15-07-2011, 05:37
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Re: Football Season 2011/12
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Liverpool are making some odd buys at high prices this window...
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Where do you get the impression that they are odd buys.
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They've spent a combined £75 million on Carroll, Henderson and Downing.
I didn't think it would be possible to spend so much money for such average players.
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l supposing that they might be average have something to do with you not supporting Liverpool and supporting some other team is the premiership.
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Go Go Liverpool! Another flop season incoming then.
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Not another non Liverpool supporter.
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They are paying far too much. £20 million for Downing? It's insanity.
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That is the market rate Damian.
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15-07-2011, 13:47
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Well some sections of our media were reporting a transfer fee of £20M for Jordan Henderson!
Bottom line is that things are now being done well and truly behind closed doors, just as they were before Moores and Parry started dragging our tradition of having respect for other clubs into the mud. The upshot is that "pet hacks" are no longer getting their scraps to feed on. Filling up column inches when there's no news is pretty much restricted to reporting vastly over-estimated transfer fees when very few people know the reality of the situation, then waffling on about how much over the odds we've paid.
Predictable and tiresome lazy journalism and people buy it. Also doesn't help when you get idiots like David Pleat and co. rambling on about such things on national radio.
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15-07-2011, 14:00
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Re: Football Season 2011/12
They're giving clubs like Newcastle and Sunderland tens of millions for their little-to-no investment. Works out great for the smaller clubs.
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15-07-2011, 14:15
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Re: Football Season 2011/12
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Where do you get the impression that they are odd buys.
That is the market rate Damian.
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Because they are average players, albeit promising ones. Liverpool are paying the price for the players they may turn out to be rather than the ones they are now. Downing and Henderson are not, yet, players for a Champions League competing team they are players for the kind of team they are at. Downling fair enough at £10 million or so - he would fit in - Henderson again would be good for £8 or so million as he has promise.
They are pay over the odds because they are English players which command an absurd premium.
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15-07-2011, 14:20
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Re: Football Season 2011/12
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Henderson again would be good for £8 or so million as he has promise.
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Henderson's transfer fee was closer to £8M than most people have been led to believe. Media, media tsk tsk
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15-07-2011, 14:27
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Re: Football Season 2011/12
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Because they are average players, albeit promising ones. Liverpool are paying the price for the players they may turn out to be rather than the ones they are now. Downing and Henderson are not, yet, players for a Champions League competing team they are players for the kind of team they are at. Downling fair enough at £10 million or so - he would fit in - Henderson again would be good for £8 or so million as he has promise.
They are pay over the odds because they are English players which command an absurd premium.
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Maybe they did pay a premium for them but we will know in a couple of years if they are average players and l remember the so called critics at Arsenal in the last 10 to 15 years saying why have you signed another average player or players and those players turned out to be Vieira, Petit, Bergkamp Henry and many more and despite my average knowledge of football l am sure they were not average players.
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