The Xbox One Thread - Page 49

nstokes · 30-08-2013, 16:38

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Originally Posted by Bulky

Things are really starting to take shape for xbox one , rubbish reveal still didn't put me off , it's just going to get better and better. Xbox ones operating system and dashboard updates and innovative ideas will smash the ps4 just like the 360 did to the ps3 , Sony yet again are going to be playing catch up due to playing it safe IMO.

I 100% agree with you. Its now looking alot better for Xbox One than it did back at E3

SnoopZ · 30-08-2013, 18:16

I agree too and i was on the fence for ages thinking of getting the PS4 based on its hardware, however after watching a few game demos like Titan Fall and Forza 5 and the fact i always prefered the Xbox 360 controller over the dual shock and with the exciting impulse rumble feature, i think(hope) i made the right chose.

I would love to buy all my games digital too, but i am unlikely to do that as the cost of importing a disk version is currently far cheaper.

Strangely there seems to be very little news about the PS4 these days even though it is outselling the Xbox One by a large margin.

nstokes · 30-08-2013, 18:22

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ

I agree too and i was on the fence for ages thinking of getting the PS4 based on its hardware, however after watching a few game demos like Titan Fall and Forza 5 and the fact i always prefered the Xbox 360 controller over the dual shock and with the exciting impulse rumble feature, i think(hope) i made the right chose.

I would love to buy all my games digital too, but i am unlikely to do that as the cost of importing a disk version is currently far cheaper.

Strangely there seems to be very little news about the PS4 these days even though it is outselling the Xbox One by a large margin.

There is a reason for that IMO. Here is a post on a Facebook group. Excuse the poor grammer. Must warn you it is rather long

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Here's my input. Coming out of e3 Microsoft showed lots of amazing games and features on Xbox one. But they had drm. Sony came out of e3 saying we're the gaming console but they showed only a few games. The best looking one was killzone. The only reason Sony did good at e3 was because they had no drm. So everybody was team ps4, even though it didn't show much. But it didn't have drm. Microsoft seen that Xbox one wasn't doing well because of the drm and stuff. Nine days later they took drm and the check in off. And there gone for good. Sony also had drm. But Microsoft was getting kicked to the ground for having it so Sony said **** that and said we are about the gamers . So Microsoft got rid of the drm and check in. Everybody was like **** yeah you rock Microsoft. Xbox one also wasn't friendly to indies. And a lot of people didn't like that. So Microsoft said hey we need to do something here. Now we have a console that you can self publish on and every Xbox one acts as a dev kit. That's amazing, that's huge ! We all loved this change. A few weeks ago Marc whitten, was on a podcast with major Nelson and they were talking about how Xbox one is doing and Marc said well way better then we thought. Which is a good thing. We got to increase the gpu clock speed from 800 to 853. Then just a few days ago it was confirmed that we are now getting a headset. So since e3, all these changes have happened. And Sony has been pretty much quiet. That could mean a lot of things. But it makes me think that Sony has nothing else to say. And Sony says they have all these games for ps4. Yet there nowhere to be seen.... So I think it's all ********. I've seen a lot that people don't like kinect or think it will spy on you. Look kinect won't "spy" on you that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And kinect brings lots of amazing things this gen and everyone that has tried it has really liked it alot. If that's the Case our smart phones and web cams, pretty much anything that has a mic, camera or uses the Internet can spy on you.. Now something I've also seen is people think Xbox one isn't about games now and ps4 is the ultimate gaming console. Lets see at e3, Xbox one showed nothing but games and they were all GOOD games. On top of all these amazing games we've got, we have 300,000 servers that are dedicated. That right there is enough is kill Sony. Xbox one is about games just as much as it was this gen. Sony says we have all these games and we are about the gamers. Yet they show off things like knack and ocadad? Yet you are about games? The only good games Sony has is killzone shadow fall right now. Sonys launch line up is weak as hell. Yet ps4 is a "GAMING" machine. Think about how stupid you look and should when to say that... In the end Xbox one is a better console because its core the heart of the console is games, games, games. Then there's all these features like Skype, twitch, nfl, hbo, etc and a kinect. We get a lot for our extra 100$. We get a better product and more for our money with Xbox one. And saying that ps4 is beating Xbox one is silly.. Xbox one is sold out everywhere and yet I can still find a few ps4s around. And no stores didn't get 50 ps4s and 10 Xbox ones. That's something a Sony fangirl would say to better there argument.... It's pathetic. And Microsoft also made the kinect optional to shut up all the paranoid people and over all just keep people happy an give them a option. And kinect is being used in a lot of games as we seen today. So clearly there not gonna drop it. Now gamescom, so far Microsoft has shown as a few new games and exclusive content along with a free game with every uk Xbox one (FIFA 14) now I can't see Microsoft leaving other country's out. So we will see a free game with our console as well, I'm thinking forza 5. And call of duty ghosts will be using dedicated servers, that's HUGE I mean everyone know cod is the biggest shooter out there and it has had lag problems for a while now. But what infinity ward showed us last week did impress me. But now we get dedicated servers? That's just over the top. And only Xbox one can do this. With over 300,000 dedicated servers that cost devs no extra money is truly amazing. And now on to what Sony showed at there gamescom conference, it was a **** show. They talked about ps3 and vita to much. I mean people don't wanna see current gen stuff, they wanna see what's next. Which is the ps4, but its like Sony pushes ps4 away. I mean they talked about the vita for awhile and must of you know that vita is not doing good, which is why they dropped the price 50$ and are making it so you can use it to play ps4 games. Which I think is stupid. Why would I want to use the vita as a controller and use the screen on vita instead of using the controller and my 55" flat screen. It makes no sense and Sony is trying to revive the vita and its not gonna happen. Just cut the cord and leave it behind. And now onto the ps4 "exclusives" that was a train wreak, if you wanna have indies that's okay. But when that's ALL you show after bragging about all these good games you have. I'm sorry but a indie isn't gonna beat ghost, bf4 or titianfall. It's just not. People don't game indies for hours and hours and hours like cod and bf etc. and we got a release date today which is November 15 in us and in the uk the 29 I think. And then Sony leaving its smart remarks was ignorant and they have no right to talk ****. They didnt change jack **** with there polices. Microsoft tried to bring change and it didnt work. But they tried, but now we have the Xbox one we want and love. And no it's not a expensive ps4 because Xbox one is very different. Also Sony is getting things like twitch and mine craft. But the CEO himself of twitch said Xbox one has let them do thing they can't do on any other console. And as for mine craft we are still partnered with that dev and so will get all that exclusive stuff. So now take a step back, and you'll see that Sony is now playing catch up with Microsoft now. Okay I mean Sony is making it so you can listen to music in the back ground while you game.... Xbox 360 has done this for years. Sony makes it sound new. That's the thing I don't get about them they make small things or multi platform games sound exclusive. And I find that quite funny. But the thing Sony does have Xbox one beat on is the amount of country's in launches in. Xbox one ha 13 Sony 32. Now Xbox one was 21, but due to the high demand and the small software tweaks for the language and the kinect. So it's small things right, but how Microsoft looks at it why ship on unfinished product to battle Sony? Why put your console at risk of being rushed. So yes it does suck for those that are affected but you can have a Xbox one imported because the games and console are not region locked. So over all you can get around the issue and its not like Xbox one won't be out world wide. Microsoft just wants to ship a amazing product and finished one at that. You can respect that if not, that's okay. But over all Sony **** the bed at there gamecom conference I seen Sony fans say this. I seem Sony fans say I hope Xbox one is still available for preorder. And Sony fans aren't bragging about the conference like it thought they would. And if your someone who is very involved with all the news around next gen then you know I'm right. But over all that's my honest take on Xbox one and ps4. And I'm not bias or a "xbot" I'm a honest person who sees threw Sonys ********. And I've had ps3 first and I had two of them. And there crap. But if you think I'm bias that's cool, I'm just speaking on what we have seen. I'm not gonna ride this Sony pony with what Sony is giving you. But anyway thanks for your time and have a great night guys !!

cimt · 30-08-2013, 18:27

Sony have been very clever with what they say. I was watching a podcast the other day and it mentioned that you can download a game using an app on your phone or using the PSN website and it'll turn your PS4 on and download your game for you. What they didn't mention though was that the PS4 is always-on, which it must be in order to use that feature.

nstokes · 30-08-2013, 18:51

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Originally Posted by cimt

Sony have been very clever with what they say. I was watching a podcast the other day and it mentioned that you can download a game using an app on your phone or using the PSN website and it'll turn your PS4 on and download your game for you. What they didn't mention though was that the PS4 is always-on, which it must be in order to use that feature.

Thats correct and Xbox One has same feature

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...ad-new-content

SnoopZ · 30-08-2013, 18:53

That was a very difficult read! lol

Some more news just in, MS have said the Xbox One will also download from the Xbox Games Store(its new name) when you're not home, you can also use smart glass to do it all.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/08/3...ile-youre-away

Edit Mr nstokes beat me to it!

nstokes · 30-08-2013, 19:08

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ

That was a very difficult read! lol

Some more news just in, MS have said the Xbox One will also download from the Xbox Games Store(its new name) when you're not home, you can also use smart glass to do it all.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/08/3...ile-youre-away

Edit Mr nstokes beat me to it!

Did you read all that post, took me ages. 360 has done similar for a while it just cant turn its self on before hand

SnoopZ · 30-08-2013, 19:13

Not all of it, i ended up skimming it, and now i think i have a headache lol.

nstokes · 30-08-2013, 19:15

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ

Not all of it, i ended up skimming it, and now i think i have a headache lol.

Lol. It is rather long but he does have some very good points in there

SnoopZ · 30-08-2013, 19:37

Something technical to read here, but i have quoted a point that stood out for me that i found on Neowin.

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Main Memory Speeds, Feeds, and Coherency:
The CPUs connect to four 64b wide 2GB DDR3-2133 channels for a grand total of 68GB/sec bandwidth. Do note that this number exactly matches the width of a single on-die memory block. One interesting thing to note is that the speed of the CPU MMU’s coherent link to the DRAM controller is only 30GBps, something that strongly suggests that Microsoft sticks with Jaguar’s half-clock speed NB. If the NB to DRAM controller is 256b/32B wide, that would mean it runs at about 938MHz, 1.88GHz if it is 128b/16B wide.
SemiAccurate would be very surprised if it was 128b wide, wires are cheap, power saving areas not. Why is this important? Unless Microsoft’s XBox One architects are masochists that enjoy doing needless and annoying work they would not have reinvented the wheel and put an arbitrarily clockable asynchronous interface between the NB and the CPU cores/L2s. Added complexity, lowered performance, and die penalty for absolutely no useful upside is not a good architectural decision. That means the XBox One’s 8 Jaguar cores are clocked at ~1.9GHz, something that wasn’t announced at Hot Chips. Now you know.

People are saying this means that MS bumped up the CPU speed as well as the GPU speed which was announced a little while ago and there is a hell of alot of custom stuff in there, hopefully it is good news.

http://semiaccurate.com/2013/08/29/a...-architecture/

http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/11...entry595911163

nstokes · 30-08-2013, 20:05

All above my head

SnoopZ · 30-08-2013, 20:11

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Originally Posted by nstokes

All above my head

Mine too, but i got sucked into that Neowin thread and there seem to be a few who know what they maybe talking about which gives positive things to the Xbox that we didn't know before.

I want the release date now though!

nstokes · 30-08-2013, 20:25

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ

Mine too, but i got sucked into that Neowin thread and there seem to be a few who know what they maybe talking about which gives positive things to the Xbox that we didn't know before.

I want the release date now though!

Me too

SnoopZ · 31-08-2013, 17:53

Tesco have now sold out of the Day One Edition, i am glad i got my order in in time, but i also have concern that there won't be enough units to go around.

I now have to work out which 2 games i want to import and where to import them from.

Best import site suggestions if anyone has any? I currently know of Play Asia.

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I have just read up on Import Taxes, is this really something that i will end up paying on every game i import because 5 years ago i never got charged any tax when importing from CDWOW and Play-Asia?

Stephen · 31-08-2013, 22:16

More than likely. I used to get stung a lot. Importing Blu Rays and Dreamcast games.