Football : Season 08/09

Originally Posted by punky

Except we didn't sell him, we loaned him. Which sums up your knowlege of football really.

Sorry for not having such a excellent command of football, but I was only letting it from this list: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7858331.stm. Which said he was 'out' didn't pay attention to how. I don't see why such a thing, about football, is worthy of being rude.

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Originally Posted by punky

In the space of a few hours, Spurs have pulled a player from across the other side of the country via public transport, and sealed the deal long before the window closed. However Arsenal needs extra time due to inclement weather to sign a player who has been in north London all day long?

BS. Arsenal are abusing the system, playing for time to cover their poor negotiating.

No one knows what is going on at Arsenal at the moment, some reports say it's signed, some say the guy has gone home. If they sign now, after the deadline, then Arsenal will have to prove the weather impeded the sale. It might be some other hitch but the contract is signed. Rumors are of a issue between Arshavin and his club, who want some of his fee.

Not to sure if a Arsenal fan stole something from you but you should really get over it. Otherwise you'll become like those Spurs fans that still can't come to terms with Campbell leaving for Arsenal years and years ago.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

The Archavin deal will be completed tomorrow, what a farce.

[punky]

Originally Posted by Damien

Sorry for not having such a excellent command of football, but I was only letting it from this list: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7858331.stm. Which said he was 'out' didn't pay attention to how. I don't see why such a thing, about football, is worthy of being rude.

The point being that if you can't even read a transfer off a newswire properly then how how I am supposed to believe you that Arsenal aren't abusing the transfer window extension?

It would be nice if the FA turn around and say to Arsenal: "No, you've had a month to sign him, tough luck", but like hell that's going to happen.

Originally Posted by punky

The point being that if you can't even read a transfer off a newswire properly then how how I am supposed to believe you that Arsenal aren't abusing the transfer window extension?

It would be nice if the FA turn around and say to Arsenal: "No, you've had a month to sign him, tough luck", but like hell that's going to happen.

I don't know Arsenal are not abusing the transfer window, I just said we don't know if they are. The deal may be completed, as I said there are conflicting reports.

[punky]

You've got a cheek calling me bitter, when you started calling our players losers. Let me guess, you were looking the other way when you typed that?

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

The Archavin deal will be completed tomorrow, what a farce.

The stories I am reading are saying confirmed tomorrow. The signing may have already taken place. If not, The Premier League will decide if they have a claim it was prevented by weather. Since it's seems pretty evident that it has not, then that would be a hard claim to make.

I suspect there is a loophole in the rules and he has signed the contract, the deal has been made, but they are sorting something else out now. Maybe a secondary payment to the club as a result of, but not directly linked too, the transfer deal.

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Originally Posted by punky

You've got a cheek calling me bitter, when you started calling our players losers. Let me guess, you were looking the other way when you typed that?

I said some other loser club Mostly to be flippant and because I didn't know the name of the other club. It wasn't a sustained few posts where I just have a massive go at you or Spurs. You seem to be quite angry at Arsenal and their fans for some reason. I don't really hold any ill will to other clubs, Spurs are run by idiots though who need to have more patience with their mangers. Sacking Jol has a mistake IMO.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Hi Damien, First let me put it this way, Spurs are not run by a bunch of idiots, l am a Spurs fan, and proud of it, Don't forget Archavin was going to sign for us in the last window.

Lets put this transfer to bed, and explain what l know about the deal, A deal was arranged and agreed at 4-00 this afternoon, (deal not signed however), Zenit called the deal off, as Archavin, owed the club money directly, this is why the deal could not go ahead, l will be honest, why the deal is still getting the ok, beats me, the player was in the UK this morning, and TWICE he was taken back to the airport, to go home, then he was taken back to the Emirate's, the agreement was ' ONLY IF WEATHER INTERFERED WITH THE TRANSFER, COULD IT RUN OVER' then would you believe it, the Premier League staff went home, there CANNOT be one deal for one club, and the other clubs follow what they are told.

As for Martin Jol, l loved the guy, he was brilliant manager, but he didn't get on with Commoli, and that was that.

Ps, I am not an Arsenal fan, but l wouldn't have a go the club, l will wait till Sunday for that.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by punky

Except we didn't sell him, we loaned him. Which sums up your knowlege of football really.

In the space of a few hours, Spurs have pulled a player from across the other side of the country via public transport, and sealed the deal long before the window closed. However Arsenal needs extra time due to inclement weather to sign a player who has been in north London all day long?

According to Rafa you have been taping him up for quite a while though, some thing Harry seems to be making quite a habit of recently, seems like he is losing the plot keep saying 'there is a mole leaking transfer targets', it's YOU Harry, everytime he does an interview he name drops another player, don't take much to unsettle players these days does it, well that and a few phone calls I suspect.

BS. Arsenal are abusing the system, playing for time to cover their poor negotiating

Alternatively

The clubs had been in discussions over the move for the duration of the transfer window, but the 1700 GMT deadline passed without any official word on the player's future. It was understood that Arsenal had agreed a fee with Zenit, during which time Arshavin, one of the stars of Euro 2008, accepted personal terms and passed a medical.

Seems like it was a done deal to me before the window closed, deciding how the payments are made is irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Lets put this transfer to bed, and explain what l know about the deal, A deal was arranged and agreed at 4-00 this afternoon, (deal not signed however), Zenit called the deal off, as Archavin

Considering you don't even know the players name, how much faith can anyone have in what you know about the deal?

[Shadow Demon UK]

I don't know about anyone else, but if i was Robbie Keane i would be so embarrased about whats gone on over the past few months. He's basically proven that he can't play for a big club and is content winning the league cup rather than the league and champions league. He had his chance and he couldn't hack it and bottled it, he's jumped ship after a couple of months, i thought he would at least stuck it out until the end of the season. Even if Benitez wasn't playing him regularly i think he would have kept him as Liverpool now only have one real out and out striker and he would have got his chance to prove himself. The last place i would want to go to is back to Spurs, his confidance must be at zero. Whether it's good business for Spurs? I thought the whole problem a few seasons ago was that Keane and Defoe couldn't play together, thats why Defoe was always left on the bench and in the end left the club, why would things have changed all of a sudden? It's all very odd.

[sherer]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The clubs had been in discussions over the move for the duration of the transfer window, but the 1700 GMT deadline passed without any official word on the player's future. It was understood that Arsenal had agreed a fee with Zenit, during which time Arshavin, one of the stars of Euro 2008, accepted personal terms and passed a medical.

Seems like it was a done deal to me before the window closed, deciding how the payments are made is irrelevant.

Doesn't it depend on when the FA get the paperwork ? If they got that in on time then as you say any details about the payments aren't that important as he will be registered as an Arsenal player.

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

I don't know about anyone else, but if i was Robbie Keane i would be so embarrased about whats gone on over the past few months. He's basically proven that he can't play for a big club and is content winning the league cup rather than the league and champions league. He had his chance and he couldn't hack it and bottled it, he's jumped ship after a couple of months, i thought he would at least stuck it out until the end of the season. Even if Benitez wasn't playing him regularly i think he would have kept him as Liverpool now only have one real out and out striker and he would have got his chance to prove himself. The last place i would want to go to is back to Spurs, his confidance must be at zero. Whether it's good business for Spurs? I thought the whole problem a few seasons ago was that Keane and Defoe couldn't play together, thats why Defoe was always left on the bench and in the end left the club, why would things have changed all of a sudden? It's all very odd.

I think this is more about Rafa wanting to have control of the team. He never wanted to sign Keane it was all done by Rick Parry and so by not playing him Rafa was making a point to the club, Keane not setting the world alight at Liverpool helped too.

Not sure what Liverpool will do now if Torres gets injured though

Originally Posted by sherer

Doesn't it depend on when the FA get the paperwork ? If they got that in on time then as you say any details about the payments aren't that important as he will be registered as an Arsenal player.

From what I have heard (2nd hand, from Sky Sports News) is the paperwork was sent to the FA before the deadline but the FA have not confirmed the transfer, partly because of a lack of staff.

Deal has been confirmed by the Player and his old club.

[Russ]

Couldn't someone just take points off Arsenal for the fun of it???

[LondonRoad]

Originally Posted by Russ B

Couldn't someone just take points off Arsenal for the fun of it???

Quite a few teams having being doing it legitimately this season. Isn't that fun enough for you.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by harmitage

Quite a few teams having being doing it legitimately this season. Isn't that fun enough for you.

Yes it is but a nice 7 point deduction would just top it all off