Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797] - Page 483

Florence · 26-05-2008, 19:05

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Originally Posted by warescouse

Captured a few packets via wireshark for webwise.bt.com/webwise/contact.php about 30 minutes ago. Resolved to 207.44.186.90
Tried it again just now and it now resolves to Fasthosts???

this is the major problem the domain is in phorm control so they can point it to any servers anywhere in the world and the people putting in BT information thinking they are on BT's domain name...

gnilddif · 26-05-2008, 19:17

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Originally Posted by gnilddif

Re the BT Contact link on the BT Webwise page:

(edited)
But I may be wrong, so I'd be interested in any comments. I know the phorm issue can get get blood boiling, so carefully considered and unemotive please

Is this a clear case of an offence under RIPA?

gnilddif

Re my post #7212, I just quoted the whole email and sent it to abuseATbt.com, pointing out that it was ostensibly a BT site and asking if they agree it is a DPA offence and an example of phishing.

g

bluecar1 · 26-05-2008, 19:19

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Originally Posted by Florence

this is the major problem the domain is in phorm control so they can point it to any servers anywhere in the world and the people putting in BT information thinking they are on BT's domain name...

anyway we can find out if the webwise subdomain has been delegated to phorm? or a name server outside the normal bt.com name servers?

Florence · 26-05-2008, 19:25

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Originally Posted by bluecar1

anyway we can find out if the webwise subdomain has been delegated to phorm? or a name server outside the normal bt.com name servers?

Looking at the emails http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34...-post7212.html the member filled in the BT contact us on the webwise.BT.com and the reply with his real name etc is from Phorm to me then this member has given Phorm his real name BT telephone number possibly his BT bill thinking he was contacting BT to get a reply from Phorm...

mark777 · 26-05-2008, 20:10

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Originally Posted by gnilddif

Re the BT Contact link on the BT Webwise page:

Back in early March I asked a question of BT Webwise using this link - it must have been the http://www.webwise.bt.com/webwise/contact.php
page. It took someone a while to reply, but here it is, received on March 13 2008:

{snip}

I see the BT Forum Mods have been active again.

If Mark W would appreciate people not reporting the page to moderators and abuse teams, perhaps BT customers might appreciate an explanation as to why the page is apparently run by Phorm marketing, as gnilddif's e-mail seems to suggest?

EDIT : Oooh, I see that's just been asked. I bet there is no answer.

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The gadget show, now on Channel 5. After the break, news on how your browsing habits are to be sold off. On now.

Don't know if it will be about phorm, but it's likely.

icsys · 26-05-2008, 20:13

Phorm is to be discussed on The Gadget Show channel 5. Airing NOW

U beat me to it

On right now... usual K*nt shpiel.......

Nice to hear that the Gadget Show disapprove of Phorm... but no mention of the E-petition.

mark777 · 26-05-2008, 20:26

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Originally Posted by icsys

Phorm is to be discussed on The Gadget Show channel 5. Airing NOW

U beat me to it

On right now... usual K*nt shpiel.......

The best piece i've yet seen on the TV. They think it's wrong and will keep us posted. Good for C5.

BT Emma never looks very comfortable about this does she?

The Prince of Darkness just looks dodgy.

icsys · 26-05-2008, 20:33

I think the Gadget Show webpage could do with a few more links to websites that warn about Phorm...

It already has a link to the BT phishing pages...

...and a BT ad banner down the right.

mark777 · 26-05-2008, 20:42

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Originally Posted by icsys

I think the Gadget Show webpage could do with a few more links to websites about Phorm...

It already has a link to the BT phishing pages...

...and a BT ad banner down the right.

Done. Sent a link to the petition and inphormationdesk.

Contact details here :-

http://gadgetshow.five.tv/jsp/5gsmain.jsp?lnk=004

They need our encouragement, because I thought the piece was very good.

bluecar1 · 26-05-2008, 21:29

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Originally Posted by mark777

Done. Sent a link to the petition and inphormationdesk.

Contact details here :-

http://gadgetshow.five.tv/jsp/5gsmain.jsp?lnk=004

They need our encouragement, because I thought the piece was very good.

missed it, and there is no transcript or video on the website yet

mark777 · 26-05-2008, 21:36

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Originally Posted by bluecar1

missed it, and there is no transcript or video on the website yet

Freeview EPG shows a repeat(?) at 2000 on Five Life tomorrow. I don't know if it will be the same episode though.

Rchivist · 26-05-2008, 21:44

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Originally Posted by mark777

I see the BT Forum Mods have been active again.

If Mark W would appreciate people not reporting the page to moderators and abuse teams, perhaps BT customers might appreciate an explanation as to why the page is apparently run by Phorm marketing, as gnilddif's e-mail seems to suggest?

EDIT : Oooh, I see that's just been asked. I bet there is no answer.

---------- Post added at 20:10 ---------- Previous post was at 19:45 ----------

The gadget show, now on Channel 5. After the break, news on how your browsing habits are to be sold off. On now.

Don't know if it will be about phorm, but it's likely.

Not sure about this, but if you missed it - there is a Gadget Show at 8pm tomorrow on "Fiver" channel. (Freeview) - it may be a repeat?

Florence · 26-05-2008, 21:48

they have videos not sure how long before tonights episode will join them.

http://gadgetshow.five.tv/jsp/5gsmai...20the%20scenes

popper · 26-05-2008, 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark777

I see the BT Forum Mods have been active again.

If Mark W would appreciate people not reporting the page to moderators and abuse teams, perhaps BT customers might appreciate an explanation as to why the page is apparently run by Phorm marketing, as gnilddif's e-mail seems to suggest?

EDIT : Oooh, I see that's just been asked. I bet there is no answer.

---------- Post added at 20:10 ---------- Previous post was at 19:45 ----------

The gadget show, now on Channel 5. After the break, news on how your browsing habits are to be sold off. On now.

Don't know if it will be about phorm, but it's likely.

missed it and there isnt any video online about it....

what did it cover, its clear that they covered Phorm, how long was the segment?.

its clear the researchers or the web page designers didnt cover much, as the one and only gadgetshow page is this, and there is nothing relating to the Anti-Phorm and the Phormettes side of the story.

they couldnt even enter the url right for that "privacy laws and business" link.

they do link to the US based Phishing "web wise" url though from there....

http://gadgetshow.five.tv/jsp/5gsmai...ction=Features

there doesnt seem to be anything on the youtube as regards todays section eather!

davethejag · 26-05-2008, 22:44

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Originally Posted by bluecar1

missed it, and there is no transcript or video on the website yet

I think that you will find that the repeat of tonights program is next Sunday morning at 10am. -
http://www.radiotimes.com/ListingsSe...s_fullpage.jsp

Keep up the good work you lot!!

davethejag