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Old 23-05-2008, 20:18   #7081
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Nuggets from Netcraft;

www.webwise.bt.com
USA
Linux/Apache
Last change:23-May-2008
IP: 207.44.186.90 (ThePlanet.com Internet Services)

http://webwise.bt.com
UK
Linux/Apache/2.2.3 (FH)
Last change:23-May-2008
IP: 88.208.248.102 (live-servers.net)[/QUOTE]

uk server still at fast hosts not BT network,

(Asked whois.ripe.net:43 about 88.208.248.102)

inetnum: 88.208.248.0 - 88.208.248.255
netname: FASTHOSTS-UK-NETWORK
descr: UK's largest web hosting company based in Gloucester
descr: England
country: GB
admin-c: MW8691-RIPE
tech-c: GD8691-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: AS15418-MNT
remarks: report abuse to abuse@fasthosts.co.uk

no data leaves the BT network???? hmmmm
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
The numbers tell a story.

If I query the netcraft netblock owner (see here)

3 hosts are listed in the same netblock (88.208.248.0,88.208.248.255)
webwise.bt.com 88.208.248.102
www.phorm.com 88.208.248.102 (the same host as above), then 88.208.250.66, now 89.145.112.32
www.tecreports.co.uk 88.208.248.85 (same address range)

History of www.phorm.com;
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.phorm.com
OS Server Last changed IP address Netblock Owner
Linux Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat) 23-May-2008 89.145.112.31 Phorm IPv4 Assignment
Linux Apache/2.2.3 (FH) 25-Apr-2008 88.208.250.66 UK's largest web hosting company based in Gloucester
Linux Apache/2.2.3 (FH) 8-Apr-2008 88.208.248.102 UK's largest web hosting company based in Gloucester

History of webwise.bt.com
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=webwise.bt.com
OS Server Last changed IP address Netblock Owner
Linux Apache/2.2.3 (FH) 23-May-2008 88.208.248.102 UK's largest web hosting company based in Gloucester
Linux Apache 5-Mar-2008 207.44.186.90 ThePlanet.com Internet Services



So something happened today (or was first recorded today)... Phorms hosting has changed hasn't it?
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Old 23-05-2008, 20:31   #7083
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
moved to somewhere wwith more bandwidth ready for the trial and mass of data to be collated?

or moved to cheaper hosting centre as phorms going down the crapper?

would prefer the later but probably the first

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Old 23-05-2008, 20:42   #7084
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
So Phorm are now comfortably in the bosom of BT, I'm sure Virgin and TalkTalk are confident that their "competitor" has control of a partners domain.
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Old 23-05-2008, 20:53   #7085
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by bluecar1 View Post
Nuggets from Netcraft;


uk server still at fast hosts not BT network,

(Asked whois.ripe.net:43 about 88.208.248.102)

inetnum: 88.208.248.0 - 88.208.248.255
netname: FASTHOSTS-UK-NETWORK
descr: UK's largest web hosting company based in Gloucester
descr: England
That's on my manor. Time for another letter to my MP to ask if he knows what's going on in his constituency.
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Old 23-05-2008, 21:02   #7086
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
There are 5 domains on 88.208.248.102:

openinternetexchange.org
webwise.bt.com
webwise.net
www.phorm.com
www.webwise.com
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by serial View Post

Can someone Please Confirm I read www.oix.net & www.oix.com with the same IP as webwise.bt.com ????

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.oix.com
Addresses: 89.145.112.31, 89.145.112.32, ""88.208.250.85""


Non-authoritative answer:
Name: webwise.bt.com
Addresses: 88.208.250.66, ""88.208.250.85"", 88.208.248.102
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
[pete@localhost ~]$ dig webwise.bt.com

; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> webwise.bt.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 13869
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;webwise.bt.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
webwise.bt.com. 1 IN A 88.208.248.102
webwise.bt.com. 1 IN A 88.208.250.66
webwise.bt.com. 1 IN A 88.208.250.85

---------- Post added at 21:34 ---------- Previous post was at 21:33 ----------

[pete@localhost ~]$ dig www.oix.com

; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> www.oix.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6061
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.oix.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.oix.com. 718 IN A 89.145.112.32
www.oix.com. 718 IN A 88.208.250.85
www.oix.com. 718 IN A 89.145.112.31
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Old 23-05-2008, 21:34   #7089
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
www.oix.net is 89.145.112.31
On that domain are also:
blog.phorm.com
blog.webwise.com
webwise.net
www.oix.com
www.phorm.com
www.webwise.com
youcanoptout.org

hmm interesting.
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Old 23-05-2008, 21:37   #7090
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Quote:
Originally Posted by SelfProtection View Post
Can someone Please Confirm I read www.oix.net & www.oix.com with the same IP as webwise.bt.com ????

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.oix.com
Addresses: 89.145.112.31, 89.145.112.32, ""88.208.250.85""


Non-authoritative answer:
Name: webwise.bt.com
Addresses: 88.208.250.66, ""88.208.250.85"", 88.208.248.102
I Get:

www.oix.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| SOHO.WORKGROUP - 0 | 12 | 12 | 0 | 4 | 10 | 10 |
| xx.xxx.xxx.x - 0 | 11 | 11 | 10 | 27 | 61 | 10 |
| xxxxxxx.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 11 | 11 | 10 | 42 | 210 | 10 |
| bagu-t3core-1b-ge-013-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 11 | 11 | 10 | 38 | 160 | 30 |
| lee-bb-b-so-130-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 11 | 11 | 10 | 29 | 110 | 20 |
| pop-bb-a-as1-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 11 | 11 | 20 | 31 | 70 | 20 |
| amst-ic-1-as0-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 11 | 11 | 20 | 33 | 61 | 30 |
| ams-001.interoute.net - 0 | 11 | 11 | 30 | 31 | 50 | 30 |
| Gi2-0.ams-koo-core-2.interoute.net - 0 | 11 | 11 | 20 | 45 | 60 | 20 |
| PO1-0.lon-wal-core-1.interoute.net - 0 | 11 | 11 | 20 | 36 | 60 | 30 |
| Te4-1.lon-wal-access-4.interoute.net - 0 | 11 | 11 | 20 | 41 | 80 | 20 |
| ge-0-1-1.edge-1.sov.lon.uk.as29017.net - 0 | 11 | 11 | 30 | 39 | 71 | 71 |
| ge-0-3-0.core-1.lhc.lon.uk.as29017.net - 0 | 11 | 11 | 30 | 72 | 190 | 30 |
| 89-145-106-198.as29017.net - 0 | 11 | 11 | 30 | 36 | 70 | 70 |
| No response from host - 100 | 11 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |



webwise.bt.com
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| SOHO.WORKGROUP - 0 | 27 | 27 | 0 | 3 | 10 | 0 |
| xx.xxx.xxx.x - 0 | 27 | 27 | 10 | 20 | 81 | 20 |
| xxxxxxx.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 27 | 27 | 10 | 24 | 81 | 20 |
| bagu-t3core-1b-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 27 | 27 | 10 | 30 | 200 | 20 |
| lee-bb-b-so-130-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 27 | 27 | 10 | 27 | 160 | 20 |
| nth-bb-a-as0-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 27 | 27 | 10 | 30 | 140 | 60 |
| bir-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 27 | 27 | 10 | 28 | 80 | 21 |
| aztw-t3core-1b-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 27 | 27 | 20 | 28 | 50 | 30 |
| osr02azte-tenge83.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 27 | 27 | 20 | 30 | 70 | 50 |
| 195.188.230.74 - 0 | 27 | 27 | 20 | 31 | 60 | 50 |
| 82.33.208.14 - 0 | 27 | 27 | 20 | 35 | 70 | 20 |
| pc3.prt0.fhcon.fasthosts.net.uk - 4 | 27 | 26 | 20 | 48 | 210 | 30 |
| pc1.hrt0.fhcon.fasthosts.net.uk - 0 | 27 | 27 | 20 | 38 | 80 | 20 |
| No response from host - 100 | 27 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
[pete@localhost ~]$ dig www.oix.net

; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> www.oix.net
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 28327
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.oix.net. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.oix.net. 554 IN A 88.208.250.85
www.oix.net. 554 IN A 89.145.112.31
www.oix.net. 554 IN A 89.145.112.32
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
On 89.145.112.32 is:
oix.net
openinternetalliance.org
openinternetexchange.com
webwise.net
www.oix.com
www.phorm.com
www.webwise.com

On 88.208.250.85 is:
webwise.bt.com
webwise.net
www.oix.com
www.phorm.com
www.webwise.com
www.webwise.org
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Old 23-05-2008, 21:41   #7093
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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I did wonder earlier today if they'd finally pulled the plug, but apparently not. The web page has been seemingly moved from a standard html page, to a php page;

http://www.webwise.bt.com/webwise/index.html
becomes -->
http://www.webwise.bt.com/webwise/index.php

Only a PHP session cookie being set, and nothing unusual in the http requests.
I wonder how long it will take them to reconnect the dots and tell the BT search box where webwise is?

Regarding the location of Webwise
I still get the following for the IP's of "webwise.bt.com"
88.208.250.66
88.208.250.85
88.208.248.102
and they all resolve to FASTHOSTS on the tools I'm using
(Karen's Power Tools - WHOIS, and url discombobulator)

and for www.webwise.bt.com I get
resolving to
207.44.186.90
which a WHOIS lookup gives as
OrgName: ThePlanet.com Internet Services, Inc.
OrgID: TPCM
Address: 315 Capitol
Address: Suite 205
City: Houston
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 77002
Country: US
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by R Jones View Post
I wonder how long it will take them to reconnect the dots and tell the BT search box where webwise is?

Regarding the location of Webwise
I still get the following for the IP's of "webwise.bt.com"
88.208.250.66
88.208.250.85
88.208.248.102
and they all resolve to FASTHOSTS on the tools I'm using
(Karen's Power Tools - WHOIS, and url discombobulator)

and for www.webwise.bt.com I get
resolving to
207.44.186.90
which a WHOIS lookup gives as
OrgName: ThePlanet.com Internet Services, Inc.
OrgID: TPCM
Address: 315 Capitol
Address: Suite 205
City: Houston
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 77002
Country: US
Looking up 'www.oix.net'...
Pinging www.oix.net [89.145.112.32]....


Looking up 'webwise.bt.com'...
Pinging webwise.bt.com [88.208.250.85]....
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
If anyone wants to find what sites are hosted on an IP, this is a very nifty site:
http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/we...on-web-server/
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