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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
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Thankee muchly! About the last time I had anything to do with linu/uni/x was with Oracle and Forms 3. Linux then came on 2 x 1.44Mb floppies and Oracle at work run on a box with about the same spec as my little eee!  
 
As far as I know, Kent was still filling his daipers. (Not nappies, because he is certainly not one of us!)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-05-2008, 03:34
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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On a slightly off topic note, I've just bought one of those asus eee thingys. I like it a lot!  Knowing there is a canny lot of bods posting on here, could anyone kindly point me towards some Linux Anti-virus/anti-spyware/firewall software? Ideally with a bit of a free trial so I can see if it grinds to a halt before I buy? 
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Eventually I intend to buy 4 or 5 or 6 of them (not sure how many yet) and set up an internet advertising company and get really rich. 
 
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 Still off topic. I have a couple of EEEPCs. I run linux on all my machines. As phormwatch notes, you don't need AV on linux and linux isn't subject to the malware epidemic Windows suffers from. A firewall is commonsense for all systems. For all the information you need about anything on these it's worth checking the eeeuser site. There's a large community of interested users.  http://forum.eeeuser.com/index.php PM me if you'd like more info.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-05-2008, 04:16
			
			
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				Still off topic. I have a couple of EEEPCs. I run linux on all my machines. As phormwatch notes, you don't need AV on linux and linux isn't subject to the malware epidemic Windows suffers from. A firewall is commonsense for all systems. For all the information you need about anything on these it's worth checking the eeeuser site. There's a large community of interested users.  http://forum.eeeuser.com/index.php PM me if you'd like more info.  
			
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 Many thanks for this ilago. I found the wiki part of that site and I now have a proper desktop!
 
My thanks to you all for your kind replies. With the eeeuser.com site I can now forge ahead.   
I don't want to take this thread off topic (it's too important) so with regards to the eee, i'll see you over on eeeuser.com. (but i'll lurk a bit first  )
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-05-2008, 10:05
			
			
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				@phormwatch @vicz 
 
Thankee muchly! About the last time I had anything to do with linu/uni/x was with Oracle and Forms 3. Linux then came on 2 x 1.44Mb floppies and Oracle at work run on a box with about the same spec as my little eee!  
 
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 Your welcome. BTW some of us still like playing with small linux see  http://www.zonko.net (shameless plug)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			21-05-2008, 10:29
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			 Criticism for 'UK database' plan
I know Dephormation Pete and some others mention some pages back that they felt this was a side issue, but reading some of the comments by people in this article,  and considering that we are talking about privacy and the legallity of what Phorm and our ISPs are up to regarding mass grabs of our date, I think this is now relevant...
 
... especially when you see comments like the last one in the article.
 
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"The idea that ISPs need to collect data and send it en masse to central government is, without doubt, illegal," he said.
			
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 So, Gus, presumably, the idea that ISPs need to collect data and send it en masse to private companies to feed us unwanted advertising is also, without doubt, illegal. JMHO
 
Should make the PIA from 80/20 interesting reading.
 
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			21-05-2008, 10:42
			
			
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			AV for Linux try ClamAV.  There are others too. 
 
You do really want AV even on Linux.  It is a less popular target but it's still a target and what if your Linux gets used as some form of vector to get to Windows boxes. 
 
One issue is that some consumer Linux's are not as locked down as they could be.  They are using Linux as a cheap platform that will be less resource intensive than XP or Vista.  They are not primarily being used for their security.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			just received a letter from my mp, he has signed the EDM 1311 on my request so it says. 
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			Just received a letter from Tesco's who said they will bear my comments in mind at their next review meeting. 
 
I wrote to them as a concerned ecommerce web developer and sugested that Phorm had the potential of informing Sainsbury's of their customers habits. 
 
It would be good to get some of the big retailers on our side I think.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I see that Alexander now has "News item A" on google finance. 
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=LON:PHRM
Nice one.
 
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				Just received a letter from Tesco's who said they will bear my comments in mind at their next review meeting. 
 
I wrote to them as a concerned ecommerce web developer and sugested that Phorm had the potential of informing Sainsbury's of their customers habits. 
 
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   should send the same to all large store saying is could do that for their competitors..
 
On another note all need to help on yet another forum this time it is one watched by BT since I often send links to threads for their attention.
 
Please read this first then there is a thread that needs some feed back ASAP to warn more to avoid.
 http://www.ispreview.co.uk/articles/bt08/index.shtml
Lets take the battle to the public.
 
The last buy on phorm might lose more than his shirt looking at what he bought or it is insider buying to pump up phorm again.. But to pay £207,620 on shares in a phirm(sorry firm :P) as dodgy as phorm  makes you wonder.
 
While on the war path is Brown going a step too far would you trust this government to handle personal data..   http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05...base_proposed/
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				AV for Linux try ClamAV.  There are others too. 
 
You do really want AV even on Linux.  It is a less popular target but it's still a target and what if your Linux gets used as some form of vector to get to Windows boxes. 
 
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In my experience the most common attack on a linux box is looking for week logins to ssh.  If you have sshd exposed to the internet on its standard port you will get a new attack every day or two.  There are various ways to stop this such as denyhosts, setting to a non standard port, disallowing password authentication or just sitting behind a NAT router/firewall.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 Totally agree, Florence.   
I posted this yesterday when it appeared on the BBC website and some people said they felt it wasn't relevant, (much to my annoyance).   
I've done a follow up today:  http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34...-post6920.html
Some interesting comments made by Privacy International.
 
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 Closer to bid than asking price.
 http://www.lse.co.uk/ShareTrades.asp...re=phorm_reg_s
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