Madeleine McCann

[Pierre]

Well, instead of frothing at the mouth with noose in hand just waiting to put the McCanns heads through it.

You'll forgive me if I wait for some concrete evidence that they are implicated.

For them to have been involved with her death and carry on this charade, would make them, IMO, the pair of coldest killers in this country since Brady and Hindly. I obviously don't know them, but I can't see it myself.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Well, instead of frothing at the mouth with noose in hand just waiting to put the McCanns heads through it.

You'll forgive me if I wait for some concrete evidence that they are implicated.

For them to have been involved with her death and carry on this charade, would make them, IMO, the pair of coldest killers in this country since Brady and Hindly. I obviously don't know them, but I can't see it myself.

Who is frothing at the mouth with a noose at the ready ? I dont think anyone has said that they wish this to be the case. Do you ?

Have you forgotten Huntly and Carr also ??

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Odd, he has shown little or no signs of pressure most of the timse he has wheeled himself out in front of the reporters.

If you know of a criminal psychologist who has made some specific statements as a result of watching the McCanns in press conferences, it would be interesting to hear what s/he has said. Otherwise, I think it's very dangerous for us to sit in our armchairs and muse from a great distance about what we perceive their behaviour to be.

Different people react to pressure in different ways. Personally, I tend to lock up any emotion, become very cold and focused and am often accused of being flippant. I'd hate to think that someone started thinking I was responsible for something just because I didn't conform to their personal idea of an 'appropriate' response to it.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Chris T

If you know of a criminal psychologist who has made some specific statements as a result of watching the McCanns in press conferences, it would be interesting to hear what s/he has said. Otherwise, I think it's very dangerous for us to sit in our armchairs and muse from a great distance about what we perceive their behaviour to be.

Different people react to pressure in different ways. Personally, I tend to lock up any emotion, become very cold and focused and am often accused of being flippant. I'd hate to think that someone started thinking I was responsible for something just because I didn't conform to their personal idea of an 'appropriate' response to it.

We'll have to have a PM some time to discuss this further

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Chris T

If you know of a criminal psychologist who has made some specific statements as a result of watching the McCanns in press conferences, it would be interesting to hear what s/he has said.

Even if that were the case I would treat it with caution. Criminal Psychology is not quite an exact science is it?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Who is frothing at the mouth with a noose at the ready ? I dont think anyone has said that they wish this to be the case. Do you ?

Maybe not, but the tone of yours, and others, posts - looking for suspicion, and traces of guilt where there is no evidence of such.

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
Just found this too.

Reporter " how did you feel when Madeleine had gone"?

Gerry "well like as a student when you go to the cash machine and the overdrdaft is gone

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey
Yeah - I can understand that - that's just what I'd feel if someone had taken my child.

Not.

I have yet to find (and someone may be able to correct me) anything from the McCann's stating they had nothing to do with her dissapearance ??

neither does it say that they are not part of the abduction.(An abduction which is looking less likely to have occured by the day)

They are asking other people to believe.

Odd, he has shown little or no signs of pressure most of the timse he has wheeled himself out in front of the reporters

There is no evidence to suggest they are involved - yet your mind would seem to be made up??

[mrmistoffelees]

I suggest you actually go and read the entire thread before you start making knee jerk assumptions as towards peoples attitudes.

I have quite clearly stated that whilst I dont think it likely it remain a possibility until all evidence disproves it. If you bother to search through my posts it will clearly state this.

Seeing as you obviously have not I hardly think you are in a position to question as to what my state of mind is.

With regards to evidence, again as I have explained before in this very thread I am not going to get into it for very specific reasons.

Never mind, never let the facts get in the way of a blinkered accusation, right ?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I suggest you actually go and read the entire thread before you start making knee jerk assumptions as towards peoples attitudes.

I've been following this thread with interest from the start.

I have quite clearly stated that whilst I dont think it likely it remain a possibility until all evidence disproves it. If you bother to search through my posts it will clearly state this.

You may state one thing but comments such as:

Odd, he has shown little or no signs of pressure most of the timse he has wheeled himself out in front of the reporters

Shows me that you clearly hold them under deep suspicion, and that you are looking for evidence of such - when there isn't any.

With regards to evidence, again as I have explained before in this very thread I am not going to get into it for very specific reasons.

Well that's handy isn't it.

Never mind, never let the facts get in the way of a blinkered accusation, right ?

What facts ??? You haven't presented any.

[handyman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Well that's handy isn't it.

Reading between the lines would suggest from this and other threads that he has access to info through his line of work. Divulging such info on a public forum would possibly get him sacked.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I've been following this thread with interest from the start.



You may state one thing but comments such as:



Shows me that you clearly hold them under deep suspicion, and that you are looking for evidence of such - when there isn't any.



Well that's handy isn't it.



What facts ??? You haven't presented any.

Ok, here we go.


Im adding a post to a discussion on an incredibly important matter where i feel all angles should be covered. If there was something which i thought was interesting to add from a potential suspect (including the original prime suspect) then I would add it. However quite simply there has not been

It's not handy, it's a statement of truth, wether or not you choose to believe it is entirely up to you. Personally I couldnt give two brass tacks.

And the fact(s) I referred to are that I have been open minded with regards what could have happened to that little girl.

It shows you ? unless your psychic then I suggest it shows you nothing.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

I am suspicious of the parents. There isn't any concrete evidence to back up my suspicions but its just a gut feeling that they know more than they are letting on.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by handyman

Reading between the lines would suggest from this and other threads that he has access to info through his line of work. Divulging such info on a public forum would possibly get him sacked.

Maybe so, but without backing up his claims then it's just hearsay and I can't take it seriously.

It may transpire that the McCanns are implicated and that I'm backing the wrong horse, I hope that is not the case, but until there is evidence displayed to the contrary I'm supporting the McCanns instead of trying to demonise them.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Ok, here we go.

Im adding a post to a discussion on an incredibly important matter where i feel all angles should be covered. If there was something which i thought was interesting to add from a potential suspect (including the original prime suspect) then I would add it. However quite simply there has not been

It's not handy, it's a statement of truth, wether or not you choose to believe it is entirely up to you. Personally I couldnt give two brass tacks.

And the fact(s) I referred to are that I have been open minded with regards what could have happened to that little girl.

It shows you ? unless your psychic then I suggest it shows you nothing.

All fine by me, just as long as you are prepared to have your theories/ premises questioned and scrutinised

After all this is what this board is for.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Maybe so, but without backing up his claims then it's just hearsay and I can't take it seriously.

It may transpire that the McCanns are implicated and that I'm backing the wrong horse, I hope that is not the case, but until there is evidence displayed to the contrary I'm supporting the McCanns instead of trying to demonise them.

There are areas that I can and will quite happily discuss, there are specifics with regards to certain areas that i most certainly can not (That I hope you can understand)

Im not trying to demonise anyone, personally with regards to this case there is nothing more I would rather see than this little girl reunited with her parents. If in the instance that she is found dead then I hope the full extent of the law applies to whoever commited such an atrcoious act.

As, I have previously stated if there was something similar on a suspect involved in the investigation, I would post that, at this point in time however there is not. This does not mean that i think them guilty by proxy.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Maybe so, but without backing up his claims then it's just hearsay and I can't take it seriously.

It may transpire that the McCanns are implicated and that I'm backing the wrong horse, I hope that is not the case, but until there is evidence displayed to the contrary I'm supporting the McCanns instead of trying to demonise them.

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All fine by me, just as long as you are prepared to have your theories/ premises questioned and scrutinised

After all this is what this board is for.

Absoloutely, however not what your initial post inferred though ??

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

I am suspicious of the parents. There isn't any concrete evidence to back up my suspicions but its just a gut feeling that they know more than they are letting on.

I agree. As said earlier, we all react in different ways to the same situation, but I felt very uneasy at the words and actions of the McCann's in various interviews & news conferences. They appear to have chosen their words very carefully in replying to certain questions, never actually saying that they were at fault by leaving their 3 children alone. They probably have one eye on possible future court cases, by not using any words that would incriminate them.

Something else that I found very odd, was the lack, from both parents, of any direct messages to their daughter while they had the chance. Wouldn't most parents look directly into the camera and reassure their child that they miss her, and are doing everything they can to get her back, just in case she is watching. Instead, when asked at a news conference by a reporter if there is anything they want to say to her, they just looked down & mumbled "she knows we love her". Strange reaction from parents who say they are so convinced she is still alive.

[Pia]

There's a pic here of two of the family friends http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...e_id=1811&ct=5

Right click on it and view properties Someone trying to drop a hint?!