Liz Truss Resigns [Who'll be the next Prime Minister?]
03-10-2022, 14:56
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Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
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Yes, would have been great if we could have chosen between Brown and Cameron two years earlier, we wouldn't have had to suffer Brown for two years.
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Hmm, without Brown we wouldn't have had Bank of England independence which saved the country from totally going down the swanny last week!
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03-10-2022, 15:00
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Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
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So in, summary, tax cut that lasted a week forced the Bank of England to spend £65 billion to buy gilts.
Anyone out there still plans to vote Tory in the next GE?
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Tax cuts allied with deep spending cuts are only supported by 6% of voters.
If the Tories go down that route the omens are not good according to pollsters.
The public want well supported public services and not public services cut to the bone..
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03-10-2022, 15:02
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Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
No, we shouldn't have an election for a new Prime Minister.
It isn't just that it isn't how our system works it's also that we've had plenty of examples that it isn't how our system works that no one can pretend they're not aware of it. We elect only Parliaments and not Presidents.
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03-10-2022, 15:07
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Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
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So in, summary, tax cut that lasted a week forced the Bank of England to spend £65 billion to buy gilts.
Anyone out there still plans to vote Tory in the next GE?
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I've moved from a three-way marginal to a safe(ish) seat held by the SNP but definitely winnable by Labour. I was always going to have to hold my nose and vote for the red team if only to get the nat out. But now I won't have to hold my nose quite so hard.
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03-10-2022, 15:14
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Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
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No, we shouldn't have an election for a new Prime Minister.
It isn't just that it isn't how our system works it's also that we've had plenty of examples that it isn't how our system works that no one can pretend they're not aware of it. We elect only Parliaments and not Presidents.
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We elect parties on manifestos. Love or loathe Johnson, he delivered the current majority on the back of that manifesto.
If a successor PM seeks to, in absolute terms, deviate significantly from that. Puts on hold legislation already in train by his or her predecessor, then absolutely they should have the spine to put their vision to the electorate.
For anyone worried I’ve checked in on Comical Ali. “Last Activity: Today 12:49”. Presumably waiting for a line from CCHQ.
Last edited by jfman; 03-10-2022 at 15:20.
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03-10-2022, 15:47
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Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
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We elect parties on manifestos. Love or loathe Johnson, he delivered the current majority on the back of that manifesto.
If a successor PM seeks to, in absolute terms, deviate significantly from that. Puts on hold legislation already in train by his or her predecessor, then absolutely they should have the spine to put their vision to the electorate.
For anyone worried I’ve checked in on Comical Ali. “Last Activity: Today 12:49”. Presumably waiting for a line from CCHQ.
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What is your obsession with Old Boy?
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03-10-2022, 15:52
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Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
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What is your obsession with Old Boy?
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Unrequited love?
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03-10-2022, 16:02
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Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
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What is your obsession with Old Boy?
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He has been the only person on here defending the mini budget.
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03-10-2022, 16:16
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Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
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He has been the only person on here defending the mini budget.
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Precisely.
It’s only understandable that we all have concern for him at this time.
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Unrequited love?
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Only for you, papa.
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03-10-2022, 16:25
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Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
I am really hating the way they talk about the U.K being in managed decline and generally things being bad as if they haven't been in Government for 12 years.
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03-10-2022, 16:29
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I am really hating the way they talk about the U.K being in managed decline and generally things being bad as if they haven't been in Government for 12 years.
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30 of the last 43.
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03-10-2022, 16:58
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Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
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I am really hating the way they talk about the U.K being in managed decline and generally things being bad as if they haven't been in Government for 12 years.
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Covenient political amnesia.
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03-10-2022, 17:00
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Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
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I am really hating the way they talk about the U.K being in managed decline and generally things being bad as if they haven't been in Government for 12 years.
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And members of the current Cabinet have held Government Office
Truss - 10 years
Coffey - 7 years
Kwarteng - 4 years
Cleverly - 3 years
Braverman - 3 years
Lewis - 10 years
Zahari - 4 years
Wallace - 7 years
Clarke - 3 years
Rees-Mogg - 3 years
Etc., etc…
So they’re blaming themselves?
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03-10-2022, 17:02
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Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
Two new opinion polls just released giving the Labour Party huge leads.
https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies....-october-2022/
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Redfield & Wilton Strategies’ latest voting intention poll in Great Britain finds the Labour Party leading by 28%, eleven points higher as in our most recent poll on 28-29 September, and the largest lead we’ve ever recorded for Labour over the Conservatives.
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03-10-2022, 17:05
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Re: New Prime Minister: Liz Truss
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So they’re blaming themselves?
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I was at the front of the queue to welcome Liz Truss acknowledging 40 years of economic failure. I was somewhat surprised she proposed the same on steroids.
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