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Old 09-08-2007, 13:15   #661
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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The online version of the Daily Mail (Not my favourite newspaper has two interesting articles)
Hmm.. this whole thing is just becoming one big(ger) mess - very strange for the lawyer to basically attack them - and the level of dislike by the portugese people seems very strange.
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Old 09-08-2007, 13:18   #662
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

Just found this too.

A quote from Gerry McCann on Sky News:

"I am uncomfortable with my celebrity status"

CELEBRITY ??????

and this one too

From an earlier interview with Gerry McCann…


Reporter " how did you feel when Madeleine had gone"?

Gerry "well like as a student when you go to the cash machine and the overdrdaft is gone"

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Hmm.. this whole thing is just becoming one big(ger) mess - very strange for the lawyer to basically attack them - and the level of dislike by the portugese people seems very strange.

Oh it gets even more interesting too.


Detective Goncalo Amaral, one of the senior detectives in the hunt for Madeleine, is an official suspect in allegations against police in the Cipriano case.
Three other officers have been accused of torture, a fourth with omitting evidence and a fifth with falsifying documents.
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Old 09-08-2007, 13:19   #663
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

The link above regarding the phone calls/emails said it was a joint operation between Portuguese and British police. It will be interesting if we hear any statements for the British police later today.

One thing is unclear though to me, the article doesn't mention when the mails/calls were intercepted. I would think it could be possible that they had called a friend, say last week, and said "Maddie's dead", maybe as they have come to accept that.

The timing of these calls/emails (if this is true) is going to be quite important.
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Old 09-08-2007, 13:22   #664
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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Just found this too.

Reporter " how did you feel when Madeleine had gone"?

Gerry "well like as a student when you go to the cash machine and the overdrdaft is gone"
Yeah - I can understand that - that's just what I'd feel if someone had taken my child.

Not.

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Oh it gets even more interesting too.


Detective Goncalo Amaral, one of the senior detectives in the hunt for Madeleine, is an official suspect in allegations against police in the Cipriano case.
Three other officers have been accused of torture, a fourth with omitting evidence and a fifth with falsifying documents.
Sorry, probably being dense - what does that mean? - i.e. is the implication that the McCanns are being set up? -
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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The link above regarding the phone calls/emails said it was a joint operation between Portuguese and British police. It will be interesting if we hear any statements for the British police later today.

One thing is unclear though to me, the article doesn't mention when the mails/calls were intercepted. I would think it could be possible that they had called a friend, say last week, and said "Maddie's dead", maybe as they have come to accept that.

The timing of these calls/emails (if this is true) is going to be quite important.

To the best of my knowledge British officers are working behind the scenes and will not comment on front line enquiry matters.

Your second point about acceptance is interesting as I would like to quote the following

Gerry McCann
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L“We want to make it clear that, as far as we know, there is still absolutely no evidence that Madeleine has been seriously harmed, and Kate and I have to believe she is still alive.

The above was said last night

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Yeah - I can understand that - that's just what I'd feel if someone had taken my child.

Not.

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Sorry, probably being dense - what does that mean? - i.e. is the implication that the McCanns are being set up? -
Correct
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Old 09-08-2007, 13:29   #666
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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Unjustly set up, or just set up

interesting comment here
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Unjustly set up, or just set up

interesting comment here

It is the Ciprano where the mother was jailed over the murder of her daughter which is what the Portugese detective (along with others) are being investigated for.
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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It is the Ciprano where the mother was jailed over the murder of her daughter which is what the Portugese detective (along with others) are being investigated for.
I know - I'm just saying there are some interesting comments in relation to that, on that blog
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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I know - I'm just saying there are some interesting comments in relation to that, on that blog

Ah right i see. Apologies,

I have yet to find (and someone may be able to correct me) anything from the McCann's stating they had nothing to do with her dissapearance ??
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...096790,00.html

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Doesn't say anything about murder...
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...096790,00.html



Doesn't say anything about murder...
neither does it say that they are not part of the abduction.(An abduction which is looking less likely to have occured by the day)

They are asking other people to believe.
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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The link above regarding the phone calls/emails said it was a joint operation between Portuguese and British police. It will be interesting if we hear any statements for the British police later today.

One thing is unclear though to me, the article doesn't mention when the mails/calls were intercepted. I would think it could be possible that they had called a friend, say last week, and said "Maddie's dead", maybe as they have come to accept that.

The timing of these calls/emails (if this is true) is going to be quite important.
I think the British still haven't confirmed the existance of Echelon (understandably so imo), so I don't think they'll make any comments on whether they've been intercepting calls/emails.

Oops, now I've mentioned "the E word" this thread will be monitored by GCHQ too
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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Yeah - I can understand that - that's just what I'd feel if someone had taken my child.

Not.
I think it might be unwise to try to unpick the words of someone who is struggling to comprehend, and explain, the kind of desperation, panic and emptiness that can only come from a situation like this.

Let's not crucify him for not being an accomplished orator, especially while he's under this sort of pressure. Plenty of people have said far worse, with far less excuse.
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I think it might be unwise to try to unpick the words of someone who is struggling to comprehend, and explain, the kind of desperation, panic and emptiness that can only come from a situation like this.

Let's not crucify him for not being an accomplished orator, especially while he's under this sort of pressure. Plenty of people have said far worse, with far less excuse.
Odd, he has shown little or no signs of pressure most of the timse he has wheeled himself out in front of the reporters.
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