Coronavirus (OLD)

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by denphone

What seems quite surreal now is still seeing adverts on TV advertising holidays and cruises abroad still.

I guess they have paid for the slots and the tv advert schedule was created. So can't really take them out.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Stephen

I guess they have paid for the slots and the tv advert schedule was created. So can't really take them out.

True. Ironically as TV viewing will rocket whilst people are stuck at home, I expect ad revenue to actually fall as there's no point in advertising closed venues and companies hit severe cash flow problems.

The only ones likely to want to advertise will be the likes of Netflix etc. Even companies like VM & Sky won't want to be sending staff into people's homes, even if new customers would allow them inside.

I have a friend who works for Openreach and he says that the Communication Workers Union is considering a plan to request that telephone engineers only do jobs that entail working outside only.

Tesco are to suspend their plastic bag free policy, leave shopping outside and will no longer require customers to sign the electronic device thing that they have.

[Taf]

China Data (pinch of salt time?)

WHAT ARE THE CORONAVIRUS MORTALITY RATES AMONG DIFFERENT GROUPS?

Conditions

Heart disease: 10.5%
Diabetes: 7.3%
Chronic respiratory disease: 6.3%
High blood pressure: 6%
Cancer: 5.6%
None: 0.9%

Ages

0-9 years: N/A
10-19 years: 0.2%
20-29 years: 0.2%
30-39 years: 0.2%
40-49 years: 0.4%
50-59 years: 1.3%
60-69 years: 3.6%
70-79 years: 8%
Over 80 years: 14.8%

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by denphone

They are now saying that pregnant women are in the higher risk group now as well.

Totally a precautionary approach, there is no evidence to suggest they are more at risk.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

nobody should use the NHS unless an emergency.

Well that should be the case in any event.

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Originally Posted by denphone

Health Secretary Matt Hancock has said 53 people in the UK have now died after testing positive for the coronavirus.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-51903319

Most, if not all, had pre-existing conditions.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Totally a precautionary approach, there is no evidence to suggest they are more at risk.

To be fair, if Mrs B was pregnant I'd want her to take every possible precaution.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Taf

China Data (pinch of salt time?)

WHAT ARE THE CORONAVIRUS MORTALITY RATES AMONG DIFFERENT GROUPS?

Conditions

Heart disease: 10.5%
Diabetes: 7.3%
Chronic respiratory disease: 6.3%
High blood pressure: 6%
Cancer: 5.6%
None: 0.9%

Ages

0-9 years: N/A
10-19 years: 0.2%
20-29 years: 0.2%
30-39 years: 0.2%
40-49 years: 0.4%
50-59 years: 1.3%
60-69 years: 3.6%
70-79 years: 8%
Over 80 years: 14.8%

A question I have about the high blood pressure figure, and perhaps it also applies to diabetes, is whether those are untreated/badly managed conditions or untreated/managed? IE If you take blood pressure medication, the idea is that you end up not having high blood pressure.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

True. Ironically as TV viewing will rocket whilst people are stuck at home, I expect ad revenue to actually fall as there's no point in advertising closed venues and companies hit severe cash flow problems.

The only ones likely to want to advertise will be the likes of Netflix etc. Even companies like VM & Sky won't want to be sending staff into people's homes, even if new customers would allow them inside.

I have a friend who works for Openreach and he says that the Communication Workers Union is considering a plan to request that telephone engineers only do jobs that entail working outside only.

Tesco are to suspend their plastic bag free policy, leave shopping outside and will no longer require customers to sign the electronic device thing that they have.

The engineers could be careful what they touch, and the person could be in another room. Many people need the phone line.

[RichardCoulter]

Just seen a watchparty on Facebook that shows footage of riot police on the London Underground.

I'm hoping to God that this is fake by some idiot, can anyone who is in London put my mind at rest?

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Nothing reported online, so i'm guessing/hoping that it's fake, possibly from a film??

Sorry to be a dunce but what’s a watchparty?

[nomadking]

But now that it has happened, Switzerland, one of the richest countries in the world, is facing at least a month with everything but the bare essentials closed. There will be no bars, no cafes, no restaurants, no sports, no nightclubs, no cinemas, no museums.
This evening in Bern people are heading to the bars for a last beer. Student Nadine is disappointed that her upcoming birthday party won’t happen, but says complaining feels a bit like a "first world problem".

They really don't get it, do they?

Originally Posted by Chris

Sorry to be a dunce but what’s a watchparty?

Loads of people watching the same thing at once. I.E You invite a bunch of people around to watch the finale of whatever show. In this case I assume it's a virtual version of it, like people all watching a live show on YouTube or Twitch.

[adzii_nufc]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham...trategy-deaths

Better link is locked behind a FT paywall. The report in question: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imp...16-03-2020.pdf
Not sure if they're relevant to the situation, as in a repeat of the open letter by 'scientists' the other day. Edit: They apparently are, just says they're advising the UK government. So if he was following their advice before and is adapting to continue following it, not sure how a few managed to use it to take a swipe at Boris or the UK. Even in dire times, petty shots here and there, twitter is rife with it.

The last time the world responded to a global emerging disease epidemic of the scale of the current COVID-19 pandemic with no access to vaccines was the 1918-19 H1N1 influenza pandemic. In that
pandemic, some communities, notably in the United States (US), responded with a variety of nonpharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) - measures intended to reduce transmission by reducing contact
rates in the general population. Examples of the measures adopted during this time included closing schools, churches, bars and other social venues. Cities in which these interventions were implemented early in the epidemic were successful at reducing case numbers while the interventions remained in place and experienced lower mortality overall. However, transmission rebounded once controls were lifted.

Formatted from the report, so the general idea of the UK Government still applies and the evidence of why is above. Unless every country with cases remain under complete quarantine until the very last country is done with it then it'll simply just pop back up, or downscale that to a national level like above and the same applies. I have absolutely no relevant experience in any of this, but can understand that closing everything doesn't just make it go away. It is those people however that are helping to stir a decent panic on all forms of social media.

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Update: Without the bait title.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...gy-has-changed

Originally Posted by Paul

Its mothers day this weekend, people have plans they are not going to give up easily.

We’ve just cancelled our meal out at a pub on the Otley Chevin - mum is 91, has various heart and respiratory challenges, so we’re not risking any impact on her.

Anyhoo, stuck in Orlando International Airport (changed flights to fly back tonight, rather than the original Thursday night, luckily just before the US ban on UK/Ireland travel was imposed, which takes effect from midnight tonight (our flight was at 22:25 originally, now 23:50 - the incoming flight from Dublin is getting in just under the wire).

The airport is heaving (everyone (US and other) trying to get home before more travel restrictions come into force), so we have treated ourselves to some passes to the MCO Club - free booze and food, so as well as some nice Bajan Chicken soup and Creole Chicken and rice, I’m getting outside a few glasses of Napa Valley Pinot Noir, and will have a couple of large Cognacs to help me sleep on the eight hour flight to Dublin.

Money well spent (and it’s nice and quiet in here).

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Hugh

We’ve just cancelled our meal out at a pub on the Otley Chevin - mum is 91, has various heart and respiratory challenges, so we’re not risking any impact on her.

Have they stopped visitors to your mums home? Lots of care homes are now closed to the public to protect the elderly residents.

Here in Yorkshire, many Doctors surgeries have locked their doors too!

What was it like returning back home? I have friends in various places and they say they can't get back to the UK.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Have they stopped visitors to your mums home? Lots of care homes are now closed to the public to protect the elderly residents.

Here in Yorkshire, many Doctors surgeries have locked their doors too!

What was it like returning back home? I have friends in various places and they say they can't get back to the UK.

Yes, they have - only essential visitors.

My son went in today (kept a safe distance from Nanna), and set up a tablet so we (and the rest of the family) can Skype her.

We’re not home yet - still in Orlando airport, awaiting our flight home in 3 and a bit hours (hopefully).

Just curious, but what would be the plan if your flight doesnt happen ?

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Notts total is up from yesterday ;

There are 14 cases in Nottinghamshire, out of a local population of 823,126.