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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Any trade with China would've been planned and agreed long before then. Firms wouldn't plan and agree £600m of spending over such a short time.
To be fair, not sure there would've been much she could've done by staying here. Communications are a lot different from 1976 and Denis Healey. Easier to keep up to date and view documents etc.
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14-01-2025, 19:37
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Is the PM going to go backwards by way of allowing an open door policy "because of AI"? Or have they learnt from the past. Better said have they worked out something nobody else has
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14-01-2025, 20:25
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They're all so smug and blinkered that they are incapable of seeing potential negative consequences on anything they do.
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14-01-2025, 21:44
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
They're obviously saying that expertise in AI will be one of the qualifications for a work visa.
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14-01-2025, 22:40
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Originally Posted by Pierre
What a job she did, £600M, the thick end of naff all.
China isn’t interested in buying our debt at knock down prices.
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£600m for a couple of days' work is not to be sneezed at. Would you rather not have that investment? And with mobile phones and the Internet, she could stay in touch with her team.
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15-01-2025, 06:27
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£600m for a couple of days' work is not to be sneezed at. Would you rather not have that investment? And with mobile phones and the Internet, she could stay in touch with her team.
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The investment was going to happen anyway. I did make the point that communications are easier nowadays.
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15-01-2025, 08:10
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Would you rather not have that investment?.
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Don’t even know if that figure is accurate, or if it’s actually new deals or just spin.
£600M. Enough to fund the nhs for just over a week.
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15-01-2025, 09:51
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Too much self in too many levels. Those at the top are not serving us but more interested in themselves or their party/mates etc. (Not all but enough!) Too many at the bottom don't seem to be interested in working, especially in the areas we need people to work though this is also the fault of a benefit system where, for some, they are better of not working.
We need more people from the UK to be in teaching, nursing, farming, labouring etc.
We need to pay more for products like milk to keep farmers able to produce it and products produced from them.
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15-01-2025, 22:01
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We need to pay more for products like milk to keep farmers able to produce it and products produced from them.
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Trouble with that policy is it's not an electable one.
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15-01-2025, 22:15
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Don’t even know if that figure is accurate, or if it’s actually new deals or just spin.
£600M. Enough to fund the nhs for just over a week.
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Chicken feed compared to the £350m a week the NHS has been getting for the 4 years since Brexit.
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16-01-2025, 09:00
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Some welcome news for the government. Let's help this uptick continues.
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UK economy grows for first time in three month
The UK economy grew for the first time in three months, driven in part by a boost in trade for pubs, restaurants and the construction industry.
Official figures showed an expansion of 0.1% after the economy shrank in each of the two previous months.
The return to growth will be a welcome sign for the government after recent turbulence in financial markets sent its borrowing costs to the highest level for several years and the value of the pound fell.
But the figure was lower than economists had expected, with declines in manufacturing and business rentals and leasing.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8r5jkv5g5po
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16-01-2025, 09:08
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0.1% is not much different from the 0.1% drop before, especially when they can be revised upwards and downwards.
The economy is flatlining and has been for years.
At the moment we're a dying country that says 'No' to everything for the benefit of NIMBYS. We can't build a HS2 rail successfully, we can't build homes in case it upsets people who already have homes, and we don't want to be the EU and we also don't want foreign trade deals either in case we have to make concessions, we don't want to build nuclear power plants and so instead we want the government to pay for our energy bills rather than making them cheaper, we want more nurses and doctors but we don't want to pay them what they would get in other countries and so on.
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16-01-2025, 09:32
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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0.1% is not much different from the 0.1% drop before, especially when they can be revised upwards and downwards.
The economy is flatlining and has been for years.
At the moment we're a dying country that says 'No' to everything for the benefit of NIMBYS. We can't build a HS2 rail successfully, we can't build homes in case it upsets people who already have homes, and we don't want to be the EU and we also don't want foreign trade deals either in case we have to make concessions, we don't want to build nuclear power plants and so instead we want the government to pay for our energy bills rather than making them cheaper, we want more nurses and doctors but we don't want to pay them what they would get in other countries and so on.
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Pierre is predicting a recession, I'm predicting the economy will continue to be sluggish.
I agree with your post.. People need to understand there's trade-offs. Economic growth v development. Trade v sovereignty. Employment v development. Long-term infrastructure build v increased taxation.
People have wanted to believe you can have your cake and eat it from politicians. They still do.
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16-01-2025, 09:50
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Damien
0.1% is not much different from the 0.1% drop before, especially when they can be revised upwards and downwards.
The economy is flatlining and has been for years.
At the moment we're a dying country that says 'No' to everything for the benefit of NIMBYS. We can't build a HS2 rail successfully, we can't build homes in case it upsets people who already have homes, and we don't want to be the EU and we also don't want foreign trade deals either in case we have to make concessions, we don't want to build nuclear power plants and so instead we want the government to pay for our energy bills rather than making them cheaper, we want more nurses and doctors but we don't want to pay them what they would get in other countries and so on.
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You still live in the best Country in the World.
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16-01-2025, 10:39
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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You still live in the best Country in the World.
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We can be even better though.
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