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Old 08-08-2007, 13:35   #646
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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Old 08-08-2007, 13:36   #647
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

Hmmmmmm, makes for interesting reading...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6936214.stm

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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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Looks potentially like the parents involvment is now even higher than initially thought
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

Crikey! As you said Derek Its pretty horrific. Just looking through some of the links I see no pictures of them with the other 2 kids? I appreciate that they don't want them in the media but I would have thought there would be at least 1 snap.
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Crikey! As you said Derek Its pretty horrific. Just looking through some of the links I see no pictures of them with the other 2 kids? I appreciate that they don't want them in the media but I would have thought there would be at least 1 snap.
A thought perhaps that maybe they do not want their other children in the media spotlight that they seem to enjoy so much ??


As an aside to this, credit to the Portugese police at this point though, up until now (especially on the forensic side of things) I thought they were poor. However, If what i think will unfold over the next couple of weeks does then they have played it very very cleverly indeed.
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Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday

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This is not a provoking post, but given your past statements on the potential of the parents involvment, can I ask if your views have shifted at all ?
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This is not a provoking post, but given your past statements on the potential of the parents involvment, can I ask if your views have shifted at all ?
My view this morning is sadness at the mere possibility that this could have happened. However what I think we should all do is try not to get caught up in the rolling news syndrome, in which journalists are constantly under pressure to form opinions and draw conclusions from incomplete information.

The stuff that is now leaking into the Press would appear to be the same stuff that your colleagues have been privy to, but that in itself doesn't mean it's conclusive.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to wriggle off the hook. I hope I made clear before that I didn't hold 'the parents did it' to be impossible, just highly unlikely for all the reasons I outlined the other day. I still think it's highly unlikely to be honest, and if it should ever prove to be true, I expect to be absolutely gobsmacked by the explanation of it all that would hopefully follow a 'guilty' verdict.

I have read one or two theories being bandied about on other websites and TBH they read like conspiracy theories. It will be amazing and very sad if a conspiracy theory actually turns out to be true for once ...
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The stuff that is now leaking into the Press would appear to be the same stuff that your colleagues have been privy to, but that in itself doesn't mean it's conclusive.
Exactly - it's still speculation - and it's going against the 'official' word - at present.
Will be interesting to see if the Portugese police make a comment?
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My view this morning is sadness at the mere possibility that this could have happened. However what I think we should all do is try not to get caught up in the rolling news syndrome, in which journalists are constantly under pressure to form opinions and draw conclusions from incomplete information.

The stuff that is now leaking into the Press would appear to be the same stuff that your colleagues have been privy to, but that in itself doesn't mean it's conclusive.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to wriggle off the hook. I hope I made clear before that I didn't hold 'the parents did it' to be impossible, just highly unlikely for all the reasons I outlined the other day. I still think it's highly unlikely to be honest, and if it should ever prove to be true, I expect to be absolutely gobsmacked by the explanation of it all that would hopefully follow a 'guilty' verdict.

I have read one or two theories being bandied about on other websites and TBH they read like conspiracy theories. It will be amazing and very sad if a conspiracy theory actually turns out to be true for once ...

Thanks for the reponse. there was never any attempt to see you wriggling on a hook, merely to see how your views might have potentially changed thats all.

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Exactly - it's still speculation - and it's going against the 'official' word - at present.
Will be interesting to see if the Portugese police make a comment?
I would of thought it highly unlikely the Portugese police will comment
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I would of thought it highly unlikely the Portugese police will comment
Even if it's just to say it's untrue? (if it is) - to my mind a lack of comment would give more creedence to the allegation
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Even if it's just to say it's untrue? (if it is) - to my mind a lack of comment would give more creedence to the allegation
If it was untrue then I would of expected the Portugese Police to come out straight away and said so. Could be a case of misinformation (deliberate or otherwise)

The online version of the Daily Mail (Not my favourite newspaper has two interesting articles)
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