17-07-2021, 18:35
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#6466
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Paul
They should take France off the amber list then.
Its like, "this is the rule .... except when it isnt"
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They’re putting France on the list before they put us on the list. It allows them to continue the charade of success.
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17-07-2021, 18:55
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#6467
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cf.mega poster
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Re: Coronavirus
Sajid Javid now has the virus and has had two jabs according to the BBC evening news.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...k-57874744.amp
Last edited by RichardCoulter; 17-07-2021 at 18:56.
Reason: Added link.
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17-07-2021, 20:52
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#6468
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cf.mega poster
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Re: Coronavirus
We're all doomed I'll tell ya, all doomed....
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17-07-2021, 21:01
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#6469
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Woke and proud !
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
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Getting Covid is a rights of passage to being in Boris's Cabinet of Millionaires. Ignore the rules as they only apply to the plebs, if only someone had told the virus...
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17-07-2021, 21:06
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#6470
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Trollsplatter
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
I’m not conflating anything. It’s a fact.
Adequate is quite a step down from overwhelming success but at least it shows you aren’t totally indoctrinated.
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Actually, given that we are still less than 2 years into a global pandemic caused by a novel virus, the fact that we have a vaccine manifestly capable of reducing the vast majority of cases to something no more serious than a bad cold *is* an overwhelming success. The hard correlation between infections and hospitalisation and death has been broken, even in cases of the Indian/Delta variant that is around twice as infectious as the original Wuhan strain from which the vaccine was developed. In the face of this, to regard the global vaccination effort as anything less than overwhelmingly successful is perverse.
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17-07-2021, 21:41
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#6471
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Chris
Actually, given that we are still less than 2 years into a global pandemic caused by a novel virus, the fact that we have a vaccine manifestly capable of reducing the vast majority of cases to something no more serious than a bad cold *is* an overwhelming success. The hard correlation between infections and hospitalisation and death has been broken, even in cases of the Indian/Delta variant that is around twice as infectious as the original Wuhan strain from which the vaccine was developed. In the face of this, to regard the global vaccination effort as anything less than overwhelmingly successful is perverse.
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You should get a job with Public Health England the way you conflate the global vaccination effort with ours as if they are one and the same, and having the same outcomes.
I’d hold the bus on the “mission accomplished” banner for the royal yacht just yet while tens of thousands more die and hundreds of thousands get hospitalised later this year.
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17-07-2021, 23:32
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Trollsplatter
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Re: Coronavirus
Actually I was thinking in terms of the development and manufacture of the vaccine moreso than the getting of it into arms. The UK’s leading role here continues to be impressive and will in the long run pay dividends all over the world, as the Oxford-Astra vaccine is, as predicted here by several of us, becoming the workhorse of the world. I fully understand that your irrational hatred of the British State makes these facts terribly hard for you to swallow.
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17-07-2021, 23:38
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#6473
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Chris
Actually I was thinking in terms of the development and manufacture of the vaccine moreso than the getting of it into arms. The UK’s leading role here continues to be impressive and will in the long run pay dividends all over the world, as the Oxford-Astra vaccine is, as predicted here by several of us, becoming the workhorse of the world. I fully understand that your irrational hatred of the British State makes these facts terribly hard for you to swallow.
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Haha. The workhorse of the world - such to the extent our Chief Scientific Adviser is modelling 20 million infections?
As I’ve always said the proof will be in the pudding. It’s not even clear this will get us out of the pandemic, however some of you would stamp a Union Flag on a placebo and cheer it on, such is the extent of being blinded by British nationalism.
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17-07-2021, 23:45
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#6474
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
Haha. The workhorse of the world - such to the extent our Chief Scientific Adviser is modelling 20 million infections?
As I’ve always said the proof will be in the pudding. It’s not even clear this will get us out of the pandemic, however some of you would stamp a Union Flag on a placebo and cheer it on, such is the extent of being blinded by British nationalism.
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Coming from the guy championing Scottish Nationalism, most of the time.
Also, watch your tone.
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17-07-2021, 23:48
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#6475
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cf.mega poster
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Re: Coronavirus
Our Chief Scientific Adviser could model next years lingerie accessories for petite women for all I care . . . he may have to fiddle his figure to make them fit though
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18-07-2021, 00:00
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#6476
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Mick
Coming from the guy championing Scottish Nationalism, most of the time.
Also, watch your tone.
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I don’t champion Scottish nationalism, I just don’t buy into the British colonial trope that nobody could possibly, ever, anywhere survive and be successful without England.
The Irish Republic now has twice the GDP per capita of the UK.
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18-07-2021, 08:08
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#6477
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
Johnson will get the “pilot” of daily testing and as long as you test negative you can go about your day, just like Kate at Wimbledon.
On a technicality until Saj is PCR confirmed they wont contact trace. Would be hilarious if Johnson caught it, having had Covid and presumably fully vaccinated.
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So one rule for them one for us.
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18-07-2021, 08:29
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#6478
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Remoaner
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Re: Coronavirus
Seems like a bit of a contradiction of their own messaging.
They said just the other week that the requirement to self-isolate will not end until August even whilst businesses are worried about everyone getting pinged by the app and having no staff.
Of course when they face such inconvenience themselves then that's a different matter.
The amount of contempt politicians have for people is always amazing.
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18-07-2021, 09:22
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#6479
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Trollsplatter
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
The Irish Republic now has twice the GDP per capita of the UK.
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Not difficult to achieve when you use aggressive tax policy to attract the world’s biggest companies to place their offices in your territory. It’s amazing how many Apple products are ‘sold’ by the Irish. Oddly enough their standard of living and likelihood of going bankrupt in a financial crash don’t seem commensurate.
Fortunately the developed world seems to be coming to its collective senses on this sort of thing. So I guess within a few years we’re going to see whether the Celtic Tiger was made of paper all along.
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18-07-2021, 11:00
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#6480
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Re: Coronavirus
BREAKING: Prime Minister, Boris Johnson and Chancellor, Rishi Sunak will now Self Isolate after earlier declaring that they will not.
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