Traffic shaping everything (inc newsgroups) - Page 42

dilli-theclaw · 16-02-2007, 19:09

I keep a database of impending asteroid near misses for the planet - I need access to gigs of info per day

**Maggy** · 16-02-2007, 19:17

Yeah and some people just pork pie...

popper · 17-02-2007, 03:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rik

We are all Linux Enthusiasts!
We are all downloading Linux ISOs

Truth, just ask Bill

good , so that means someones made/downloaded a good linux livecd that can do my
wants as regards wireless/wired NAS and DVB-T streaming see here for thread....
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/19...l#post34224367

funny enough if its a personal Traffic shaping app then that too might be a good thing to have on the livecd, as long as its under MY control and not my ISP at the given time.

Sherlock614 · 17-02-2007, 17:11

Getting traffic shaped here in Cheshire (i presume). Hit 2gb then a complete falloff to half of my connection speed. Thought i would speak to CS about it but as i thought, they know nothing about traffic shaping.... Putting me through to India twice

Considering downgrading now if this is the future of "10mb". There doesn't seem a lot of point in paying the extra tenner.

SnoopZ · 17-02-2007, 17:19

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Originally Posted by Sherlock614

Getting traffic shaped here in Cheshire (i presume). Hit 2gb then a complete falloff to half of my connection speed. Thought i would speak to CS about it but as i thought, they know nothing about traffic shaping.... Putting me through to India twice

Considering downgrading now if this is the future of "10mb". There doesn't seem a lot of point in paying the extra tenner.

I don't blame you mate. You could move to Cambridge though as it's currently shaping free.

peanut · 17-02-2007, 17:49

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ

I don't blame you mate. You could move to Cambridge though as it's currently shaping free.

SSSSSSSShhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Hopefully they won't notice us if we keep quiet.

Carl J · 17-02-2007, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherlock614

Getting traffic shaped here in Cheshire (i presume). Hit 2gb then a complete falloff to half of my connection speed. Thought i would speak to CS about it but as i thought, they know nothing about traffic shaping.... Putting me through to India twice

Considering downgrading now if this is the future of "10mb". There doesn't seem a lot of point in paying the extra tenner.

Nah that's clear shaping sir. The graph is far too flat to be anything else so, yer, that's Subscriber Traffic Management.

killy_321 · 18-02-2007, 21:51

OK so I have established that:

1. There is traffic shaping going on
2. If I use the Virgin service sparingly I get to keep my 4 meg connection speed 100% of the time.
3. If I download big files or use p2p my internet connection drops to 2meg.

So my question is if I am on the 4meg service does anyone know the exact figures be it in gigs per day or month or downloading over a certain speed at certain times of the day that trigger my connection to be cut to 2meg, so that I can avoid these conditions with my own download manager and p2p throttling keeping the rest of the bandwidth available for speedy browsing and other applications?

**Hugh** · 18-02-2007, 22:27

It's not the downloading of big files, it's the P2P that does it.

I downloaded a 431mb file (on a 4mb link) from Blueyonder games demo site, and it took about 13-14 minutes; an equivalent size file from a torrent site took 3 hours - QED.

If you are going to torrent, just set it running and go do something else (imho).

Sherlock614 · 18-02-2007, 23:56

As has been said earlier in the thread, shaping appears to be between the hours of 4pm and 12am.

Hit 2gb in between those hours and your connection is halved, returning to full after 2 hours.

The argument of downloading in the wee small hours pushes me more towards 4mb connection in terms of my usage and what i am paying.

It just doesn't justify having 10mb in this current form.

smucks · 19-02-2007, 01:31

Well after just surfing and no major downloads for months and still finding my connection drops to 2-3 meg from 7 pm, id thought I would catch up on some LINUX iso's and some other stuff.

Guess what I find the same connection still drops like a stone looks like You get tard with a brush no matter what you do on the 10 Meg, no point having it or paying for it if requiring it in the evenings!!!!

They should sell it as day time only mega XL, glad I have my BT line in now looking for a adsl provider to test with no 12 month contract then I'm off any help on this will be welcomed.

Locky · 19-02-2007, 08:06

doing 3.5 gb a hour atm not being shaped at all (sum guy called netmike on another forum) if you dont download at more than 80% of your 10 meg speed (about 8 meg) you can download all day and all night and not get shaped

wereas u go over tht and you get shaped to 600kb/s on newsgroups

**Hugh** · 19-02-2007, 08:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by smucks

Well after just surfing and no major downloads for months and still finding my connection drops to 2-3 meg from 7 pm, id thought I would catch up on some LINUX iso's and some other stuff.

Guess what I find the same connection still drops like a stone looks like You get tard with a brush no matter what you do on the 10 Meg, no point having it or paying for it if requiring it in the evenings!!!!

They should sell it as day time only mega XL, glad I have my BT line in now looking for a adsl provider to test with no 12 month contract then I'm off any help on this will be welcomed.

Sherlock614 · 19-02-2007, 08:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locky

doing 3.5 gb a hour atm not being shaped at all (sum guy called netmike on another forum) if you dont download at more than 80% of your 10 meg speed (about 8 meg) you can download all day and all night and not get shaped

wereas u go over tht and you get shaped to 600kb/s on newsgroups

The great thing about this forum is posts like yours, with info like that.

This has been going on a number of weeks now with absolutely no indication of what the guidelines are from NTL. This is what annoys me most.

I am going to ring CS this morning, to try and get somebody "in the know" to tell me why my connection is slowing down by itself.....

If i get that far, i am then going to be asking why there is no info on any website.

Rik · 19-02-2007, 10:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locky

doing 3.5 gb a hour atm not being shaped at all (sum guy called netmike on another forum) if you dont download at more than 80% of your 10 meg speed (about 8 meg) you can download all day and all night and not get shaped

wereas u go over tht and you get shaped to 600kb/s on newsgroups

Not the case here, I have no Traffic Shaping

SShhh tho keep it to yourselves