Football Season 2011/12 - Page 42

**Damien** · 25-08-2011, 22:02

The only reason Celtic and Rangers are not already in the Premiership is because of the question of how to do it. Otherwise it would have already been done.

Niles Crane · 25-08-2011, 22:13

To add insult to injury, even Ireland have a team still in Europe. Shamrock Rovers have just beaten Partizan Belgrade, one of the biggest teams in the Europa League, 2-3 on aggregate, after extra time.

I guess Celtic fans can take tenuous, desperate heart in that at least.

They scored a great equalising goal too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOfNq6JY_BE

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Shamrock Rovers are set to become the first Irish team to play a European match in December since Shelbourne in 1964. Heroic.

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For the first time since European club football began in 1955, there will be no Scottish teams in contention on September 1. Wipeout.

http://twitter.com/#!/OptaJoe

thenry · 25-08-2011, 22:17

Great goal

iadom · 25-08-2011, 22:30

Here is a slightly flawed but nevertheless interesting article.

Arsenal & Blackpool were robbed

Jim.

nffc · 25-08-2011, 22:32

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What about Wales then?

Like they aren't already in our league.

danielf · 25-08-2011, 23:13

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(which does beg the question where does NI come into Olympic rules as it's Great Britain and not United Kingdom but that is a whole other thread??)

Actually, my wife and I were discussing that the other day and looked it up: Great Britain is the name under which the UK enters the Olympics. It's sort of an historical accident. Changing the name to UK now would mean that the UK couldn't claim the GB medals, even though it's always been the UK that competed in the Olympics. It's just called GB...

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Great Britain is the name under which the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland competes at the Olympic Games.[1][2] Great Britain was one of 14 teams to compete in the first Games, the 1896 Summer Olympics, and has competed at every Games. Athletes representing Great Britain have won 715 medals at the Summer Olympic Games, and another 22 at the Winter Olympic Games. Great Britain is the only team to have won at least one gold medal at every Summer Games.
Great Britain was the name assigned to the United Kingdom team by the International Olympic Committee[citation needed] for the 1908 Summer Olympics along with the IOC country code GBR. The team is also referred to as Team GB.[2] Representatives of the devolved Northern Ireland government, however, have objected to the name, which they argue creates a perception that Northern Ireland is not part of the British Olympic team, and have called for the team to be renamed as Team UK.[3][4]
Under the terms of a long-standing settlement between the British Olympic Association and the Olympic Council of Ireland,[citation needed] athletes from Northern Ireland can elect to represent Ireland at the Olympics, as Northern Irish people are legally entitled to dual citizenship.[5]

Russ · 26-08-2011, 09:02

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Originally Posted by nffc

Like they aren't already in our league.

Like the English aren't also in our league as well

Kymmy · 26-08-2011, 09:05

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Originally Posted by iadom

Here is a slightly flawed but nevertheless interesting article.

Arsenal & Blackpool were robbed

Jim.

Very flawed, as any change in any decision would effect the whole game from that point on and not just the goal in question

**Damien** · 26-08-2011, 09:09

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Very flawed, as any change in any decision would effect the whole game from that point on and not just the goal in question

Certainly flawed but I good illustration of the damage incorrect decisions can do and the myth, which never held any substance, and they balance each other out at the end of the season.

Kymmy · 26-08-2011, 09:10

Yep, and if you went back over a century you'll probably find that it's happened to every team in the country

denphone · 26-08-2011, 09:19

The law of averages says that over time these decisions generally equal themselves out so basically we have to accept the bad decisions when we get them and the good decisions when we get them because if one thing is certain it is that referees always stand by their decisions whether they are good or bad.

Derek · 26-08-2011, 10:16

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Think it would be really hard to integrate them into English Football. Celtic and Rangers would need to go in at around Championship level but where do we find the room for them?

Championship? Thats aiming a bit high, we'd end up relegated from it the way things are just now.

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Looks like all three Scottish Clubs crashing out of the Europa League already. Their UEFA coefficient is screwed, even more so.

It's already in the gutter after the crap performances of most teams over the last few years. I believe next year the winner of the league gets automatic entry to the Champions League (to get a drubbing each game

) and after that it's right down at the bottom with 3 qualifying matches.

denphone · 26-08-2011, 10:24

Well it seems Asenal are trying to get players on the cheap as they have just made a bid for Gary Cahill of £6 million and it was rejected by Bolton.

http://www.clubcall.com/bolton-wande...ce=twitterfeed

**Damien** · 26-08-2011, 10:36

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It's already in the gutter after the crap performances of most teams over the last few years. I believe next year the winner of the league gets automatic entry to the Champions League (to get a drubbing each game

) and after that it's right down at the bottom with 3 qualifying matches.

That surprises me. Why would they get a automatic spot when their coefficient has been going down?

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Well it seems Asenal are trying to get players on the cheap as they have just made a bid for Gary Cahill of £6 million and it was rejected by Bolton.

http://www.clubcall.com/bolton-wande...ce=twitterfeed

I call rubbish. We have already meant to have higher bids for him several times according to the papers. That said he is in the last year of this contract as Bolton's valuation of £17 million is absurd.

denphone · 26-08-2011, 10:38

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That surprises me. Why would they get a automatic spot when their coefficient has been going down?

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I call rubbish. We have already meant to have bid for him several times according to the papers.

Well it is on SSN as well and on several reliable Twitter feeds.