Will Scotland Leave the UK?

[Derek]

Oh dear as well as fat ecks currency plans being torpedoed now his EU plans are taking a kicking.

The President of the European Commission has waded into the independence debate, saying it would be almost “impossible” for Scotland to join the European Union if it votes yes in the referendum.

http://bit.ly/1gOObn9

Maybe time for the mystical 'legal opinion' the SNP claimed to have to make an appearance.

It's great isn't it.

The SNP asserts that currency union is in everyone's interests. The top mandarin in the Treasury says it isn't, so he therefore is wrong. The Chancellor says it isn't going to happen (as does his shadow, and his Lib Dem deputy), so therefore they are wrong. It's just a negotiating tactic, and anyway they're just bullies.

The SNP asserts that Scotland can join the EU, on its own terms, within 18 months of this September. Now the head of the European Commission says it will be difficult, and may be impossible, for Scotland to join the EU. So therefore he is wrong, and his views, coming as they do from the man that runs the machine and knows all the heads of government Scotland would have to negotiate with, are "preposterous".

John Swinney is preposterous. I can't believe the Scottish people are going to turn out in September and vote for what the SNP is selling. I wouldn't even buy a used car from them.

Nearer we get to the vote the more downsides and out and out lies will be bought into the light and scots will have to see the SNP for what they are a bunch of fantasists and liars. If the tactic to answer everything and everyone that doesn't agree with the SNP version is to insult them or accuse them of bullying this is going to descend into a complete joke and the Scots people are worth a hell of a lot more then for scotland to be seen that way.

The problem is, the SNP has had the field to itself since forever. They have been used to making wild assertions about how indeScotland will be a land flowing with milk and honey without anyone bothering to call them out on it. Now, there is an actual debate leading to an actual vote and people are calling them out on their nonsense. And it is suddenly becoming clear that the SNP has grown so used to making unchallenged assertions, they actually didn't realise that this time, they were going to have to have some evidence and some convincing arguments behind them.

It is truly shocking that with each assault on their assertions, their response is invariably to claim that they are being bullied, their opponents are preposterous, everyone else is wrong and the SNP is right.

The truly awful Angus Robertson has been on the airwaves this morning uttering threats about the Scottish people rising up against all these bullies. He treats the Scottish people with contempt, assuming that they all see things the way the SNP tells them, without engaging any critical faculties at all.

[Osem]

After much reasoned debate, and in light of the growing consensus of opinion disputing Salmond's version of the 'facts', the SNP's catchy new pre-referendum slogan has just been unveiled:


Vote YES- everyone else is wrong & they're all just nasty bullies anyway so there!

[nashville]

No way do I want the euro, I want to stay with the pound to better safe than sorry I will vote NO, just wish it was all over. !!!!!!!

So now the EU are also bullying Scotland? Poor Salmond, everyone is picking on him

[Chad]

I don't like the provocative language the SNP use. They always seem to react in a petulant way whenever they get exposed. They are living up to the stereotypical Scotsman image of having a short fuse, aggressive nature and always spoiling for a fight. It's embarrassing. Because David Cameron won't have a live debate with Salmond he's a "coward". Because the Chancellor has ruled out a currency union he's a "bully".

... And because Barroso has predicted difficulties with Scotland's application to join the EU, he's "Preposterous".

All of which is highly undiplomatic language from people who aspire to seats at at places like the UN, NATO and the EU.

[weenie]

[QUOTE=Jimi;35672874]I'm watching you Mrs Teeny Weenie.

Watch and learn Jimi and remember and try to behave ....

[Chad]

Originally Posted by Chris

... And because Barroso has predicted difficulties with Scotland's application to join the EU, he's "Preposterous".

All of which is highly undiplomatic language from people who aspire to seats at at places like the UN, NATO and the EU.

They're not endearing themselves to many people on a domestic or European level. There is a real sense of denial creeping into their campaign as Salmond's wishlist (AKA The White Paper) is torn to bits left, right and center.

[Scary]

i cant wait to see what he will say if the vote come in and they want to stay part of the UK in september, what is he going to say then the Scotish poeple are picking on him lol

Originally Posted by Scary

i cant wait to see what he will say if the vote come in and they want to stay part of the UK in september, what is he going to say then the Scotish poeple are picking on him lol

He will say that the no vote was a result of all the brits bullying the scots

[Scary]

Originally Posted by martyh

He will say that the no vote was a result of all the brits bullying the scots

lol he probably will or the vote was rigged.

[Osem]

Salmond will probably react the same way as the EU does to a no vote - demand another vote so the Scots have a second chance to get the 'right' answer.