Britain outside the EU

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Since we import nearly half of the food we eat in this country, you may not have fully thought that through…

I'm sure we would all survive on chicken/sausage and chips for 6 months, with a lamb or beef hotpot on a Sunday

[damien c]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Since we import nearly half of the food we eat in this country, you may not have fully thought that through…

Stop eating foods that cannot be grown here and that figure would drop, the problem then is, given the level of population, there is not enough farm land grow the required levels of food, especially with Labour bulldozing as many fields as possible to build HMO's and bedsits on.

In reality there are things we need to import into this country and that includes certain people because of certain job roles, however our government should be controlling imports better but well we have seen how that has gone under both the Tories and Labour.

I was talking to someone about this a few months ago, he said we could get away with not importing anything, until I asked him where his computer stuff is going to come from, where his medication is going to come from etc etc at which point he realised importing is not bad as long as it's controlled and done correctly, but when there are no controls etc it causes problems.

Originally Posted by Carth

I'm sure we would all survive on chicken/sausage and chips for 6 months, with a lamb or beef hotpot on a Sunday

We import 40% of our chickens, and we are a net importer of pork (for the sausages) and beef - you are making suggestions that are unlikely to be workable.

Have you thought of standing for Reform UK?

[Carth]

We probably only import all that stuff because the UK is filled with fast food outlets catering to the whims of the 'can't be arsed to do it myself' brigade.

Anyway, we could slap a 70% tariff (lol why not) on any imported foods . . pineapple on your pizza sir? - that'll be an extra £4

[damien c]

Originally Posted by Carth

We probably only import all that stuff because the UK is filled with fast food outlets catering to the whims of the 'can't be arsed to do it myself' brigade.

Anyway, we could slap a 70% tariff (lol why not) on any imported foods . . pineapple on your pizza sir? - that'll be an extra £4

Say goodbye to most of the Fruit and Veg, Chocolate, Cereals, Fish, Beef etc etc, if we slap massive tariffs on it or ban the import of it.

https://ssoif.co.uk/an-overview-of-t...-food-imports/

[Carth]

Originally Posted by damien c

Say goodbye to most of the Fruit and Veg, Chocolate, Cereals, Fish, Beef etc etc, if we slap massive tariffs on it or ban the import of it.

https://ssoif.co.uk/an-overview-of-t...-food-imports/

more likely say hello to farming, fishing and livestock becoming popular again

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

more likely say hello to farming, fishing and livestock becoming popular again

we can eat seasonal stuff like spuds n turnips and spuds and turnips and spuds......

Originally Posted by Carth

Tariffs here, tariffs there, bloody tariffs everywhere.

What the hell happened to the 'global market' everyone was so sure would be brilliant?

Screw it, lock the doors and close the curtains, let's go self sufficient, nothing (including people) in or out for the next 6 months


oh, and a P.S. - the UK steel industry = foreigners that thought a UK base would allow them better access to the European markets

Originally Posted by Carth

more likely say hello to farming, fishing and livestock becoming popular again

Pretty sure these two proposals couldn’t run concurrently, due to the lead time finding the land for crops and livestock, then actually planting, growing, and harvesting the crops, breeding and raising the livestock, and building the fishing boats and training the crews…

[Carth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

we can eat seasonal stuff like spuds n turnips and spuds and turnips and spuds......

and sprouts, and carrots, and swede, and cucumber, and peas . . and . . and . . it's a vegetarians paradise isn't it

Originally Posted by Hugh

Pretty sure these two proposals couldn’t run concurrently, due to the lead time finding the land for crops and livestock, then actually planting, growing, and harvesting the crops, breeding and raising the livestock, and building the fishing boats and training the crews…

See, that's what's wrong with this country. Somebody makes a decent suggestion and EVERYBODY knocks it.
Let's face it, we're screwed aren't we

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

and sprouts, and carrots, and swede, and cucumber, and peas . . and . . and . . it's a vegetarians paradise isn't it

i'm growing some garlic out the back, take that Frenchy

[Carth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i'm growing some garlic out the back, take that Frenchy

Sprouts in garlic sauce, scrumptious

[damien c]

Originally Posted by Carth

more likely say hello to farming, fishing and livestock becoming popular again

Your 3 points are sadly quite easily made useless by this Labour Government.

1: Farming, farmers are getting out of farming and are also paid by the Government to not grow crops because they would rather use the companies they are invested into, to import the food so farming is being killed off.

There is also an issue of what land do we use when every Labour council is concreting over every inch of land they possibly can to build HMO's, Bedsits, 1 bed flats and warehouses, at the rate they are going and the rate the Tories will go at, there will be no green fields left in this country within 20 years.


2: Fishing, we cannot catch enough fish to feed the country, never mind the constant influx of new people in small boats, when this clown show of a Government hands over fishing rights to the EU for 12 years meaning we cannot catch as much as needed because the EU have primary rights to the fishing grounds, in exchange for getting through border security faster when the clowns go to the EU.

3: Rearing Livestock, again just like farming, it's hard to raise livestock when you have no land to grow grain etc to feed them, also with the way this country is going, it will be illegal to eat meat soon.

Sadly with the likes of Labour in charge this country is going down the toilet, not that the Tories are or were much better.

Originally Posted by Carth

and sprouts, and carrots, and swede, and cucumber, and peas . . and . . and . . it's a vegetarians paradise isn't it




See, that's what's wrong with this country. Somebody makes a decent suggestion and EVERYBODY knocks it.
Let's face it, we're screwed aren't we

Pointing out facts/reality ≠ knocking…

"lock the doors and close the curtains, let's go self sufficient, nothing (including people) in or out for the next 6 months" ≠ ’decent suggestion"

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Pointing out facts/reality ≠ knocking…

"lock the doors and close the curtains, let's go self sufficient, nothing (including people) in or out for the next 6 months" ≠ ’decent suggestion"

perfectly good suggestion, on par (or better) with anything else spouted by the 'experts' running the Country - which have done nothing to reduce national debt, help industries grow and mature, create employment, or safeguard the few industries we have left.

Not to mention the reduction in Global Warming if we stop bringing crap in from halfway around the World just to bury it 3 months later when it breaks

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

We import 40% of our chickens, and we are a net importer of pork (for the sausages) and beef - you are making suggestions that are unlikely to be workable.

Have you thought of standing for Reform UK?

Isn't Ireland, which has a huge chunk of our meat imports, a special case and always has been? Isn't there cross-border processing of meat?