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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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 Maybe watching this Forum & decided they need to invest at around 4.00pm, or though unlikely been given the go ahead for their Testing?
 
If the latter then some Insider Trading???
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-05-2008, 17:09
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				insider trading ? do you think. 
			
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 I suspect it's phorm buying their own shares. A £57k block sold for more than the asking price!
 http://www.lse.co.uk/ShareTrades.asp...re=phorm_reg_s
I'd bet my hat on this being preparation for publication of a phorm friendly PIA.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-05-2008, 17:10
			
			
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			09-05-2008, 17:14
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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Yes the balloon is expanding rapidly, the skin is stretching painfully thin. It's scary to watch this inflation before our very eyes...  hands up who will flinch when they see the pin?    
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-05-2008, 17:20
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Yes the balloon is expanding rapidly, the skin is stretching painfully thin. It's scary to watch this inflation before our very eyes...  hands up who will flinch when they see the pin?     
			
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 Bang on. The thing is, although the volumes traded are up on recent days, they are nothing like when the price is really moving up or down.
 
This is an artificially induced blip involving not too much money being spent.
 
But they are doing it for a reason.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-05-2008, 17:22
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Yes the balloon is expanding rapidly, the skin is stretching painfully thin. It's scary to watch this inflation before our very eyes...  hands up who will flinch when they see the pin?     
			
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 What pin?
 
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			09-05-2008, 17:25
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Bang on. 
			
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 You made me jump.
 
I'm guessing they are trying to prop the price up over the weekend when there's no trading.
 
Two days when it looks like its holding its value perhaps?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-05-2008, 17:25
			
			
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				Bang on. The thing is, although the volumes traded are up on recent days, they are nothing like when the price is really moving up or down. 
 
This is an artificially induced blip involving not too much money being spent. 
 
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Does anyone remember some oldie talent show...  this particular clip is often repeated in other clip remembering shows over the years.
 
There is a strongman act, and the guy has a hot water bottle which he blows up before the audience...  it creeks and it groans    !SNIP!  sorry I won't spoil the ending for anyone that hasn't seen it.     
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-05-2008, 17:34
			
			
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			Back to 1800, there was another buy...I think.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-05-2008, 17:36
			
			
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				Back to 1800, there was another buy...I think. 
			
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 Yup
 
TIME                  PRICE    BID      ASK    VOLUME PRICE   B/S     TYPE 
16:17:46 	1800p 	1725p 	1725p 	150 	£2,700 	BUY	O
 
Something VERY weird is going on - why would someone buy at ABOVE the Bid and Ask Price?????? But also notice - its only 150 Shares - so a really small amount.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				You made me jump. 
 
I'm guessing they are trying to prop the price up over the weekend when there's no trading. 
 
Two days when it looks like its holding its value perhaps? 
			
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 I don't think there is much point driving it up unless they think something is going to happen to keep it up. Perception management?
 
If a glowing PIA is released this evening and people see the share price increase today, they will be queueing up to buy in on Monday morning.
 
To a large extent, the share price is all about perception. If it went down to 10p phorm would still be in business. They would have lost the ability to raise more cash, along with their business credibility though.
 
Interesting day (I should get out more!).
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			My contact at FT is extremely surprised too, she is doing some digging. 
 
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			Could well be a director buy then, showing confidence etc.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I don't think there is much point driving it up unless they think something is going to happen to keep it up. Perception management? 
 
If a glowing PIA is released this evening and people see the share price increase today, they will be queueing up to buy in on Monday morning. 
 
To a large extent, the share price is all about perception. If it went down to 10p phorm would still be in business. They would have lost the ability to raise more cash, along with their business credibility though. 
 
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 I would be very surprised if the PIA is coming out today, I know Simon is incredibly busy this week with an issue of international significance based on an email I received from him earlier in the week.  So I can't see it being the PIA as I can't honestly see him as having had time to finish it.
 
My FT contact suggests that maybe someone has put out a fresh buy note on it this afternoon, she is looking into the afternoon announcements to see if there is anything there.
 
If we are lucky Phorm PR team will be feeling a little braver and come back out from under their rocks, which would be nice, I kinda miss them.
 
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				Could well be a director buy then, showing confidence etc. 
			
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 It could be, but if a favourable PIA is published shortly, that would be insider trading I think.
 
I'm certainly no expert on this and I don't know where the dividing line is between shoreing your share price and insider trading.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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