Britain outside the EU

Everybody: calm down please.

Originally Posted by Russ

Yet there’s still nothing to suggest any of that spending was due to Brexit.

There isnt anything to prove it isnt either, no one can definitivly say one way or the other.
As I said, the only solid fact is that its increased by more, since either 2016 or 2020.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Paul

There isnt anything to prove it isnt either, no one can definitivly say one way or the other.
As I said, the only solid fact is that its increased by more, since either 2016 or 2020.

So not out of the bounds of possibility that such increases were planned with the intention of saying/BS’ing that the extra money is the £350m from Brexit?

[ianch99]

The Brexit Bus is not a hill to die on. The consequences of Brexit dwarf this figure.

If you want someone who has done a lot of detailed research in this area, follow Chris Grey: https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/

Originally Posted by Russ

So not out of the bounds of possibility that such increases were planned with the intention of saying/BS’ing that the extra money is the £350m from Brexit?

Of course its possible, but its also just unprovable speculation.

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Apparently the IMF thinks we are going to do better in the next 2 years.

The global institution upgraded its prediction for UK growth to 1.6% for this year from its previous estimate of 1.5%.

As well as upgrading its outlook for the UK, the IMF suggested the UK economy would perform better than European economies such as Germany, France and Italy over the next two years.

It also confirms we didnt do so well last year.

The latest IMF figures suggested the UK economy had weaker growth last year than the organisation had expected.

All part of this article about the possible effects of Trump and his tariff plans : https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cglyynp44g4o

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Paul

Of course it’s possible, but it’s also just unprovable speculation.

Unprovable yes but given the pro-Leave’s propensity for lying (led by their bullshitter-in-chief Bullshitting Boris) I think there’s more chance of it being all part of their ruse than not.

I mean, the other points I made being overlooked notwithstanding

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Russ

Unprovable yes but given the pro-Leave’s propensity for lying (led by their bullshitter-in-chief Bullshitting Boris) I think there’s more chance of it being all part of their ruse than not.

I mean, the other points I made being overlooked notwithstanding

Remainers were not exactly totally wedded to the truth! Pot, kettle, black....

[Russ]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Remainers were not exactly totally wedded to the truth! Pot, kettle, black....

Oooo examples please?

Shall we compare?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Russ

Oooo examples please?

Shall we compare?

We’ve been there, done that and got the tea shirt. Why do we have to go around in endless circles on this subject?

[Russ]

Forgive me but I don’t recall a like-for-like comparison of bullshit between Leave and Remain on CF before, are you sure we did that?

[Pierre]

2016 wants to have a few words with you. The words are “get the F over it” it’s been nearly a decade. It’s boring.

I cant believe I'm starting to agree with Pierre.

The vote was 8.5 years ago - this is just going in circles again.
Seems time to move on unless there is something new or useful to add.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Paul

I cant believe I'm starting to agree with Pierre.
.

Eventually, everybody does……….

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Paul

I cant believe I'm starting to agree with Pierre.

The vote was 8.5 years ago - this is just going in circles again.
Seems time to move on unless there is somethign new or useful to add.

Yeah the vote was 8 years ago but nobody knew what would the actual outcomes would be until several years later when bullshitting Boris gave us a crap deal. None of the promised benefits materialised (“Food, clothing and footwear will be cheaper” etc) yet plenty of the negatives are with us.

2 people I know had businesses that exported specifically to Europe, both closed down due to the extra costs and paperwork as a result of Brexit.

My daughter graduates this year and an ideal large multinational company has already provisionally offered her a job in the autumn but have made it clear her options for progression are limited due to Brexit. There will be other jobs out there naturally but this would have been ideal as a long term career.

Now she views it as just a stop-gap.

So yeah, I’m pretty pissed off with Brexit.

Yeah, I'm getting pretty pissed off with the whole "everyone who voted leave fell for lies" nonsense.

These days it seems every post you make is either a rant on Brexit, or Boris, or the last government (often more than one of them).
Its starting to get very [very] tiresome. We know what you think of them by now, it doesnt need to be repeated day in day out. Give it rest.