World Cup 2006 Thread

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by gazzae

What England need is a coach who will pick the best team, not the best players. Someone who if Lampard and Gerrard aren't working together will drop one.

That would take a brave man to do that, certainly not Sven, probably not Mclaren either

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

That would take a brave man to do that, certainly not Sven, probably not Mclaren either

Then they need to design a good system, what do Gerrard and Lampard both have at their clubs? DMs behind them.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by gazzae

What England need is a coach who will pick the best team, not the best players. Someone who if Lampard and Gerrard aren't working together will drop one.

Indeed. I'd ideally like an English coach for the England team, but if not, Martin Jol would be brill. He came under a lot of critism last year for not playing Defoe and Keane at the same time, but truth was, they didn't play well together - and he puts out a team, not individual players. . Not much else you can do really

[liamboyle06]

So do we all Agree that Italy deserved to Win?
I personally thought they were teh better team over the tournament than France, and so am Glad they won.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by liamboyle06

So do we all Agree that Italy deserved to Win?
I personally thought they were teh better team over the tournament than France, and so am Glad they won.

I actually thought France played better yesterday although tbh I was a complete neutral and just enjoyed the spectacle

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by liamboyle06

So do we all Agree that Italy deserved to Win?
I personally thought they were teh better team over the tournament than France, and so am Glad they won.

For their defence that only conceded an own goal and a pen they deserved to win.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by liamboyle06

So do we all Agree that Italy deserved to Win?
I personally thought they were teh better team over the tournament than France, and so am Glad they won.

Yeah, they were over the tournament, France were dull frankly. But I do thinkhacome a cropper so many times in penalty shoot outs, that I think it was their time to win. France have won both the Euro and World Cup in the past few years, so it's nice that someone else gets to take it home.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by gazzae

Then they need to design a good system, what do Gerrard and Lampard both have at their clubs? DMs behind them.

To do that you would have to play with one up front, then you leave out either Owen or Rooney, I think your first idea was better tell them to shape up or drop one, or play one every other game, unless one is in sensational form.

[sherer]

well i have to say i didn't think it was a pen anyway

the bloke never had the ball at the time and the contact was so slight that it wouldn't have made you fall over certainly not in that way anyway

what annoys me about this diving and stuff is at the moment they have it both ways

either

you go over at the slightest sign of contact and it's a foul in which case it's not possible to use your strength to hold someone off

or

it is possible to use your strength in which case you don't have to go over at the first sign of contact

agree with Gazzae that if teams want to stop play for someone who is injured then they should win the ball back themselves and put it out

also three game bans would be good and get rid of the stupid FIFA Fair Play thing as that does nothing anyway

with SM in charge now I can't see alot changing.. he does most of Sven's work anyway so we will pretty much be the same as we was

[gazzae]

[danielf]

Originally Posted by sherer

well i have to say i didn't think it was a pen anyway

the bloke never had the ball at the time and the contact was so slight that it wouldn't have made you fall over certainly not in that way anyway

I agree there, but I think France did have a valid penalty appeal later in the match. Having said that, I think the Italian disallowed goal should have stood. I haven't seen the replay, but I thought the player that scored the goal was not off-side.

France were slightly better (in the second half) yesterday, but over the tournament, I think Italy deserved to win more than France (if only for scoring twice against Germany in the dying minutes).

[sherer]

i'm not even convinced the second one was a pen either.. ok there was more contact but the player was going for the ball and just happened to catch his leg.. he never went in to foul the player

giving pens for free kicks for this sort of thing is why we see so much diving and exaggeratting of stuff if you play football and get it wrong just get on with the game.. if you take someone's legs away give a free kick or pen.. with no difference between the two you will always see this

Hansen annoyed me with the pen as if that had been during his playing days the bloke wouldn't even have fallen over and never would have been a pen

the italy goal went out after the corner was taken so that evened things up slightly

when i saw the replay of the disallowed goal i think all three Italians were offside

[gazzae]

I wasn't really watch the analysis at half time during the 3rd place game, But did Shearer really say that Rooney was too strong and to honest to dive?

---------- Post added at 14:20 ---------- Previous post was at 12:28 ----------

Apparently only 3.5 Mill watched the Final on ITV compared to 20 mill on the BBC!

[gazzae]

From The Sunday Times World Cup final preview, about Zidane...

'The world's most complete footballer, but once had a reputation for sudden and shocking violence.'

[Legendary_PSR]

the italy goal went out after the corner was taken

yeah. what's the point in having the assistant there if he isn't going to notice such obvious things.

only about 10% of corners all this season stayed in play

there was more contact but the player was going for the ball and just happened to catch his leg.. he never went in to foul the player

that sounded a lot like andy gray

whether he deliberately went to foul a player is irrelevant