General : Virgin TV (2024)

[jfman]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Freer for what purpose?

[vincerooney]

do we get la liga tv for free this month with premier sports? A few years back it was on virgin media but it doesn't seem to be present anymore

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

"skip three minutes" also works


The Home button gets you there too.


You don't have any storage for actual recordings in the cloud. Only the data about your recordings is stored there. The recordings are on your boxes. But you have a bit more space for recordings than you did on V6 because the V6 also uses the hard drive for other things like the guide

Does this mean that if the internet goes down you can't play recordings on the STB because it doesn't have the data?

[ozsat]

La Liga TV is it's own channel now only on the Premier Sports app. You have to subscribe directly to PS for that after the linear channel closed.

There is some live La Liga on Premier Sports 1 this month.

Originally Posted by vincerooney

do we get la liga tv for free this month with premier sports? A few years back it was on virgin media but it doesn't seem to be present anymore

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Does this mean that if the internet goes down you can't play recordings on the STB because it doesn't have the data?

Yes

[nodrogd]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Does this mean that if the internet goes down you can't play recordings on the STB because it doesn't have the data?

From what I've heard it's a bit hit & miss as to what is available to view. The headend server has the master list of what is at the recording location, & your recording list updates from that. If you have already started playing a recording on your box, stop it & then lose internet, it will in most cases pick up where you left off as it already knows the location of that recording. However, any recordings you have not started playing won't play as the box can't find the server & hence the location of the new recording.

[Mr K]

So in the brave new world, if your interweb goes down, so does your TV and phone. That's progress I guess.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Mr K

So in the brave new world, if your interweb goes down, so does your TV and phone. That's progress I guess.

Preparing everyone for the streaming future, I guess.

[epsilon]

Originally Posted by jfman

Preparing everyone for the streaming future, I guess.

Indeed. We will all just have to get used to broadband going down meaning no access to TV...

[cheekyangus]

Originally Posted by epsilon

Indeed. We will all just have to get used to broadband going down meaning no access to TV...

And the way they do it isn’t an efficient use of the computer networks either. It’s daft they keep pushing something that uses bandwidth so badly.

The “old fashioned” ways are a least efficient. If you broadcast from a TV mast it can be received by as many people as you can possibly fit in the transmission area (theoretically), it could be a huge number of separate devices, and all from the one emission. Internet, particularly the most inefficient implementations, mean there will be one stream for every device from start point to end point. Having an emission for every user, particularly for long parts of the transmission chain, is daft and a huge waste of resources.

This is for live content I’m on about I should point out. There will obviously always be separate streams for the non-live on-demand stuff, as everyone will be watching something different and/or at different times.

[epsilon]

What really annoys me is that Virgin adopted the Horizon Box with a few workarounds to make a box designed for a completely different market work in the UK. What hope is there of bringing some of the, much loved, features of the V6 to the TV360 if Virgin don't even bother to adapt the boxes to local storage. We don't have cloud recording in the UK, it would have been preferable to, at least, change the Horizon software to deal with that reality. Not to come up with a workaround to fool the boxes that the local recordings are actually in the cloud. It would mean storing a little more information on the box harddrive but, at least, recordings would be available when broadband isn't.
One size doesn't fit all. The UK has been given all of the disadvantages of cloud recording but without the advantages.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by epsilon

What really annoys me is that Virgin adopted the Horizon Box with a few workarounds to make a box designed for a completely different market work in the UK. What hope is there of bringing some of the, much loved, features of the V6 to the TV360 if Virgin don't even bother to adapt the boxes to local storage. We don't have cloud recording in the UK, it would have been preferable to, at least, change the Horizon software to deal with that reality. Not to come up with a workaround to fool the boxes that the local recordings are actually in the cloud. It would mean storing a little more information on the box harddrive but, at least, recordings would be available when broadband isn't.
One size doesn't fit all. The UK has been given all of the disadvantages of cloud recording but without the advantages.

VMO2 must be Liberty Global's largest market now it has sold its German operation, so hopefully the UK will have more say going forwards.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by epsilon

What really annoys me is that Virgin adopted the Horizon Box with a few workarounds to make a box designed for a completely different market work in the UK. What hope is there of bringing some of the, much loved, features of the V6 to the TV360 if Virgin don't even bother to adapt the boxes to local storage. We don't have cloud recording in the UK, it would have been preferable to, at least, change the Horizon software to deal with that reality. Not to come up with a workaround to fool the boxes that the local recordings are actually in the cloud. It would mean storing a little more information on the box harddrive but, at least, recordings would be available when broadband isn't.
One size doesn't fit all. The UK has been given all of the disadvantages of cloud recording but without the advantages.

But that isn’t the way things are going, epsilon. TV boxes in the future will not have a hard drive. The workaround you suggest would only be an interim solution for that reason.

Yes, it’s a shame we won’t be able to record in the future because it means your access to the programmes you have bookmarked are time limited. However, the future world will look a lot different in all sorts of ways in just about everything we do, and the pace of change will only increase.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

But that isn’t the way things are going, epsilon. TV boxes in the future will not have a hard drive. The workaround you suggest would only be an interim solution for that reason.

Yes, it’s a shame we won’t be able to record in the future because it means your access to the programmes you have bookmarked are time limited. However, the future world will look a lot different in all sorts of ways in just about everything we do, and the pace of change will only increase.

“Life in the future will be sub-optimal, so we should make everything worse from this point just to acclimatise” is a hot take.

There’s no reason for Virgin to sabotage their products to below subscriber expectations to suit your agenda, OB. By your own flawed rationale Sky and Virgin should simply disable hard drive recording altogether, people should burn their old DVD recorders and VCRs in a bonfire of old technology.

[epsilon]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

But that isn’t the way things are going, epsilon. TV boxes in the future will not have a hard drive. The workaround you suggest would only be an interim solution for that reason.

Yes, it’s a shame we won’t be able to record in the future because it means your access to the programmes you have bookmarked are time limited. However, the future world will look a lot different in all sorts of ways in just about everything we do, and the pace of change will only increase.

Apparently not, with many countries making recording easier with recordings in the cloud. In Germany, you can even subscribe to services such as YouTV which will record programmes in the cloud for you. It's only your dystopian dream of 2030 that completely eliminates linear TV and recording.