Virgin Media to Double Broadband Speed - Page 41

virginruinedntl · 12-01-2012, 23:49

you will replace the router yourselves unless there are problems with power levels, frequencies etc, virgin will send an engineer for free to sort it in those situations.

BenMcr · 12-01-2012, 23:49

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Originally Posted by thenry

more.. http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...ed-modems.html

and much more. ignition, sirus, gas, ben.. etc. etc. have all posted

Just to point out modem security is completely indepedent to this speed increase

thenry · 12-01-2012, 23:56

but it does come into play when you put everything together (the whole upgrade process) ?

BenMcr · 12-01-2012, 23:59

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Originally Posted by thenry

but it does come into play when you put everything together (the whole upgrade process) ?

Nope. Modem security is already in place, these upgrades are independent of it

thenry · 13-01-2012, 00:02

getting rid of old modems is in my opinion part of security.

also if thats the case then it sucks and still needs tightening.

BenMcr · 13-01-2012, 00:04

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Originally Posted by thenry

getting rid of old modems is in my opinion part of security.

also if thats the case then it sucks and still needs tightening.

How many times. The modems that need replacing for security reasons have been replaced. The rest can all do the same security

thenry · 13-01-2012, 00:06

no they haven't

BenMcr · 13-01-2012, 00:07

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Originally Posted by thenry

no they haven't

Yes they have and yes they can. However as I've said before, not everywhere has had the security switched on yet because not everywhere has had the upstream increase. That will shortly change.

thenry · 13-01-2012, 00:10

you've not said that before.. unless I've somehow missed it

davidthornton · 13-01-2012, 00:16

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

You can that here www.virginmedia.com/fasteruploads

I found it here. Seems like most areas are complete and the rest should be within six months.

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It's not going to happen

"not" because "cannot" or "not" because "don't want"?

One FTTC ISP has reported two successful trials of 20Mbit upload today. If 20Mbit upload becomes generally available to FTTC users within three months, for example, Virgin Media are going to look a little slow (offering a maximum of 50% of that, until 120:12Mbit is rolled out and then still 8Mbit slower). I will be interested to see if BT point this out when advertising their Infinity service later this year. VM might then feel compelled to do something, particularly as I suspect the forthcoming 120Mbit tariff is partially designed so VM can say "we offer the fastest download speeds in the UK".

BenMcr · 13-01-2012, 00:20

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Originally Posted by thenry

you've not said that before.. unless I've somehow missed it

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

I may have got this wrong but I thought the security got switched on as part of the upload increases in each area, so as soon as the final area gets the upload increase then there will be no way to do it

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Originally Posted by davidthornton

"not" because "cannot" or "not" because "don't want"?

One FTTC ISP has reported two successful trials of 20Mbit upload today. If 20Mbit upload becomes generally available to FTTC users within three months, for example, Virgin Media are going to look a little slow (offering a maximum of 50% of that, until 120:12Mbit is rolled out and then still 8Mbit slower). I will be interested to see if BT point this out when advertising their Infinity service later this year. VM might then feel compelled to do something, particularly as I suspect the forthcoming 120Mbit tariff is partially designed so VM can say "we offer the fastest download speeds in the UK".

Just because it's technically possible to do 20Mbit upload doesn't mean it's financially doable

Virgin have just spend over a year getting the network to a point where it can support 10:1. I would expect making the whole network support a higher upload to download ratio is another big bit of work

davidthornton · 13-01-2012, 00:40

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

Just because it's technically possible to do 20Mbit upload doesn't mean it's financially doable

Accepted. Perhaps they could consider charging a premium?

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Virgin have just spend over a year getting the network to a point where it can support 10:1. I would expect making the whole network support a higher upload to download ratio is another big bit of work

I'd have hoped that they spent enough to allow it to go well beyond 10:1 rather than just up to 10:1.

We know VM are going to have to do some work before they can offer 120Mbit download in the summer, otherwise they'd probably start offering it quicker. All I am saying is they might like to think about improving upload speeds more than they have because they're likely to be overtaken within the next few months by a substantial number of ISPs offering FTTC. I have a feeling that upload speeds are going to start mattering a lot more in the future.

thunderlips · 13-01-2012, 01:17

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Originally Posted by thunderlips

http://www.itproportal.com/2012/01/1...dband-network/

just found this on the net look what comment someone left at the bottom of page !

now VM are upgrading broadband, maybe should start looking at changing the phone service, reduce line rental and include evening calls without paying the Â£4.00, if they want to compete with SKY !

virginruinedntl · 13-01-2012, 01:29

nah, virgin should start giving out voip phones to new customers, that would really heat things up in the telecoms world to be the 1st mainstream telecoms company to roll out voip, amazing audio quality. My annoyance of vm phones is the charge for 0845 calls, those are free on sky. So many businesses use 0845

It wouldn't surprise me if virgin made the 120mb tier a 20mb upload too in a few months time, they would gain rather a lot of users with that, especially small businesses.

Chrysalis · 13-01-2012, 06:49

I should add regarding STM.

Some people said that they think people wont downgrade from 50 to 30 because they pay to have no STM. However in congested areas STM has little effect anyway as natural speeds drop below its threshold or are not much above it. eg. last night I got about 9mbit/sec, STM rate is 7.5mbit/sec. My neighbour on 100mbit a few doors away got just over 10mbit/sec. So what is he paying extra for?

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

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Just because it's technically possible to do 20Mbit upload doesn't mean it's financially doable

Virgin have just spend over a year getting the network to a point where it can support 10:1. I would expect making the whole network support a higher upload to download ratio is another big bit of work

Ben do you honestly think VMs network is capable of 10:1 for all areas that have it activated?