2010 General Election: The Cable Forum Exit Poll

Great News!

The BNP seems to have had an awful night yesterday! Last night they failed to win the seat they were after in Barking, sensing defeat Griffin said they 2nd was the real target anyway. He came 3rd

Of course, it was really control of the council they were after wasn't it! After having 12 people already elected from Barking they were in a position to take the entire council. Well the results are in. The BNP from gone from 12 councillors in Barking to ......... NONE !!! They LOST all of them! They also lost a few in my consistency of Epping Forest, and a few others around the country.

Ahhhh BNP rise? Afraid not Good ol country We're really not a bunch of nasty racists when it comes down to it Well done to the Hope not Hate campaign who obviously got the vote out there to not only prevent BNP gains but cause them losses. Tomorrow is the 65th anniversary of VE Day BTW

[Horace]

^^

http://ethicsgirls.com/bnpcost/

[saabmania2]

Originally Posted by SlackDad

Politicians. Lies? Now there's a thought.

And for the record, I didn't vote Conservative because I'm old enough to remember Thatcher and just in case by some strange anomaly that isn't enough, the Tories will only ever put the needs of the privileged first.

that's fine, i also remember the thatcher years
i wasn't trying to find out if, why or what people voted for, but as i have been doing lots of work in my area and alot of people have been put off voting Conservative (although Conservative won here) due to the tax credit acusations and just wondered if it had affected the way people voted in other areas

[Hom3r]

Well NC is trying his tongue on DC backside
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Pol...orm_Government

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Well NC is trying his tongue on DC backside
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Pol...orm_Government

Not that you're bitter about the possibility of a Lib Dem / Conservative agreement or Labour not being in power, they've done such a sterling job in the past 13 years I'm sure they'd fix everything within 13 weeks if they managed to get back in obviously. Not that there's anything to fix because of the fantastic job they have done in the past 13 years.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

I'm sorry but I don't mean to offend, but only a small number have a genuine problem with these hours, and thats why there is a postal vote.

That is exactly what my family did we opted for a postal vote and sent them back a week ago, the really is no excuse not to vote and the ones who did not vote should be fined.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by saabmania2

that's fine, i also remember the thatcher years
i wasn't trying to find out if, why or what people voted for, but as i have been doing lots of work in my area and alot of people have been put off voting Conservative (although Conservative won here) due to the tax credit acusations and just wondered if it had affected the way people voted in other areas

Not really - it was just scaremongering. The policy would only affect people who had incomes over 50k. Yep it would only affect those with incomes of 50,000 or more. I appreciate that Gordon Brown when he was wittering on about the millions who rely on these credits and would lose out forgot to mention that minor detail in his attempt to scare people into voting for him.

For all those who feel disenfrachised by living in a safe seat (of whatever party) under the FPTP system, could I point out the history of my constituency, Leeds North West.

It was a safe Tory seat pre-1997 (even in 92 they had a 7.7k majority), but it was lost to Labour in 97, with Lib Dems coming third then and in 2001. They became very active locally, the prospective candidate Greg Mulholland visited all the usual suspects (schools, shopping centres, holding surgeries, etc), and won in 2005 with a majority of 1877. His majority increased this time to 9103, with Labour reducing and Tories static.

This happened because he works hard in the constituency, supporting his electorate (of whatever persuasion), and is a fairly independent Liberal Democrat - perhaps if we had more of these types of MPs (of all parties), some safe seats wouldn't be so safe?

[Will21st]

I feel that a Con/LibDem government could be a very good thing,if the parties can work out a deal both sides can leave with,politically.
Conservatives for the hopefully tough cuts and repelling of the state to get the economy going again,and the Libs for civil rights and maybe some other progressive social policies.

Dunno,I just have a good feeling about this (In 13 years we'll see how it went )

Originally Posted by Will21st

I feel that a Con/LibDem government could be a very good thing,if the parties can work out a deal both sides can leave with,politically.
Conservatives for the hopefully tough cuts and repelling of the state to get the economy going again,and the Libs for civil rights and maybe some other progressive social policies.

Dunno,I just have a good feeling about this (In 13 years we'll see how it went )

I think this could be the start of a beautiful friendship......

.................................. Tories.................Lib Dems.......................

[Peter_]

I expect another election within 12 months as hung parliaments never work in this country.

[Will21st]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

I think this could be the start of a beautiful friendship......

You had to take the p,didn't you?

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by Mick

That's wrong Matt - that is a Labour hold - Labour so far have not gained any seats.

Nope, it's right. The BBC's Election 2010 page is wrong. Rochdale was a Labour gain from the Lib Dems.

The Lib Dems narrowly defeated Labour in Rochdale 2005, & now in 2010 Labour have taken it back.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/c.../1249/rochdale

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/482.stm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/elec...hdale-bid.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdal...s_in_the_2000s

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Going pure PR doesn't appeal though. A hybrid FPTP / PR would be ideal though I've no idea how that'd work

Something like this?

FPTP mixed with PR - http://www.conservativeelectoralrefo...AddMemVote.htm

Interesting site. Seems some Tories do like the idea of electoral reform!

Lots of info on other methods, including AV+ & STV.

http://www.conservativeelectoralrefo...ndex-Home.html


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I'm glad the Lib Dems held Cambridge!

My biggest upset of the night was Dr Evan Harris' very narrow loss in Oxford West & Abingdon

Times Online Science Blog - Election 2010: a terrible night for science

Bah.


I was extremely happy with the defeat of both Jacqui Smith & Charles Clarke though Just a pity the rest of New Labour's crappy former Home Secretaries didn't get the boot too. And a damn shame that Blears kept her seat

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Hmm. Although I'm a Grauniad-reading Lib Dem, I'm not averse to a Tory / Lib Dem coalition. OK, the Tories will never support meaningful electoral reform, but unlike Labour they are in alignment (mostly) with the Lib Dems on Civil Liberties, & not too dissimilar in some other areas. I think I'd actually find a Labour / Lib Dem coalition less favourable, plus it still wouldn't be enough seats anyway...

[Hiroki]

Originally Posted by saabmania2

i'd like to ask how many people decided not to vote conservative after the lies labour told about losing the tax credits system, i've spokern to loads of people in my area and they quite a few said they didn't vote conservative due to the tax credits (being cut )
of course it wasn't true unless you earn't 45k or above, but that didn't stop labour spouting rubbish and frightening the public

just interested to see how much this affected different areas

*Holds hands high in the air* that was my number one reason.

We don't claim for them in my house as I make enough money from work and various other ways so I am able to support my gf & son but a lot of my friends were **** scared about loosing the tax credits (child tax credits) as they depended on them and thought they would be plunged into poverty if they lost them and I felt bad for that reason and wondered what the **** I would do in that situation.

Never knew that it would only affect people who earnt 45k or over

****

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by Kent Brockman

I, for one, welcome our old Etonian overlords