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Rjs37 · 03-04-2011, 00:14

I don't see the justification to charge a higher/lower price for the size of hard drive. Hard drives are incredibly cheap nowadays and that's at retail costs. So I don't see the justification in releasing a lesser sized version and pricing it much lower, the cost of the box would be very very similar so why charge much less/more (depending on which way you look at it).

My initial assumption would have been that the lower model would have no hard drive or that it would have reduced functionality but the majority (from what I've read about it) seem to have the impression it'll just be a reduced hard drive size.

Yet I'd wager that wouldn't equate to more than Â£30 (probably less when you consider economies of scale) in cost differences yet the difference in their price will obviously be more than that. No point in having two tiers of the box that are almost the same price after all.

In truth I was expecting that they'd fore-go the Â£40 install fee for pre-regs and at that price I'd have gone for it. I felt Â£150 was on the steep side (especially considering there's a monthly fee too - though replacing my second V+ box I may end up making a saving) but I was just about willing to pay that. Now I'm not so sure.

They can justify the monthly fee for their ongoing services but I don't see any justification for what will obviously be a significant price difference when this second lower tier box arrives. Especially if it's just a smaller hard drive.

HDFootyMan · 03-04-2011, 00:51

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Originally Posted by Rjs37

They can justify the monthly fee for their ongoing services but I don't see any justification for what will obviously be a significant price difference when this second lower tier box arrives. Especially if it's just a smaller hard drive.

Don't Sky charge less for the 500Gb version of Sky + HD? (by less, I mean nothing when taken with the HD pack). The price difference between that and the 1TB version is a mere Â£249, with the same functionality on both versions.

Dave42 · 03-04-2011, 01:39

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan

Don't Sky charge less for the 500Gb version of Sky + HD? (by less, I mean nothing when taken with the HD pack). The price difference between that and the 1TB version is a mere Â£249, with the same functionality on both versions.

exactly you pay Â£250 just for a 1TB hard drive with sky just for one thing to record more it does not do one thing extra than a normal sky hd box can do with tivo you get 1TB hard drive and lots of extra functions the v+ has not got and it best box out by miles

03-04-2011, 02:28

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Originally Posted by HDFootyMan

Don't Sky charge less for the 500Gb version of Sky + HD? (by less, I mean nothing when taken with the HD pack). The price difference between that and the 1TB version is a mere Â£249, with the same functionality on both versions.

easy enough to chuck a 38 quid samsung F3 1tb in im sure

of course if you have an older box it will be ide and therefore more expensive and less capacity max

Doz007 · 03-04-2011, 07:36

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

Has any company? Serious question.

Well Apple always give dates to when they're launching products. If I see a trailer for a film I like, I know when that's going to be available for me to go see. I remember Sky Atlantic being advertised as coming 1st Feb, so that had a launch date. Call of Duty Black Ops had a set in stone release date almost a year before lauch. Almost every other major game also gets launch dates months and months in advance.

I'm sure there's many more examples also.

denphone · 03-04-2011, 07:41

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Originally Posted by Doz007

Well Apple always give dates to when they're launching products. If I see a trailer for a film I like, I know when that's going to be available for me to go see. I remember Sky Atlantic being advertised as coming 1st Feb, so that had a launch date. Call of Duty Black Ops had a set in stone release date almost a year before lauch. Almost every other major game also gets launch dates months and months in advance.

I'm sure there's many more examples also.

I totally agree with you.

muppetman11 · 03-04-2011, 08:31

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Originally Posted by Dave42

exactly you pay Â£250 just for a 1TB hard drive with sky just for one thing to record more it does not do one thing extra than a normal sky hd box can do with tivo you get 1TB hard drive and lots of extra functions the v+ has not got and it best box out by miles

You are correct the 1TB Sky+HD box is the same box with the same functions as the Sky+HD 250gb box the only difference is the 250gb records 60 hrs HD and the 1TB does 240 hrs HD , it's only one advantage over TIVO is it records double the amount. Sky have it as a premium product as for most 60 hrs HD is more than enough , I think somebody on here had rang Sky who offered to match TIVO pricing for their 1TB box and over on AV forums people are getting it for 150.00 through retentions.

sniper007 · 03-04-2011, 09:23

Overall, all they need to do is take away install fee, make the 1tb box Â£99 for pre regers and existing high paying customers, and take away the Â£3 per month extra fee. A lot of us already pay over Â£60 per month for our services which is enough already. The prices just went up anyway and another Â£3 is just taking the mic for the same premium TV service just for a newer, better STB which is over due anyway to address storage issues.

jb66 · 03-04-2011, 10:00

I think virgin have it right with the pricing. They need to keep demand at a reasonable level. If it was as cheap as sniper thinks it should be thousands of folk woud be snapping them up and there simply wouldn't be enough techs to install them.

muppetman11 · 03-04-2011, 10:30

Can anyone confirm when using twitter , eBay and other apps can you still watch the TV Ie you can tweet whilst watching a show ?

These seem a good interface

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmxqzWhpVs8

Saw them on a recent trip to the USA.

m3gt2 · 03-04-2011, 10:47

Hi, Have had my email about Tivo now :-) Am on VIP20 would someone be able to tell me how much I should pay if I upgraded to VIP50 with 2 x Tivo and 1 x V+? Also would I pay the Â£150 activation once or twice with having 2 x Tivo? Cheers Chris

Joedm45 · 03-04-2011, 11:22

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Can anyone confirm when using twitter , eBay and other apps can you still watch the TV Ie you can tweet whilst watching a show ?

These seem a good interface

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmxqzWhpVs8

Saw them on a recent trip to the USA.

Unfortunately if using the apps you can't watch TV at the same time.

Having watched the vid, the app graphics cuts off the picture which is a bit strange. Would of thought they'd do a picture in picture.

Doz007 · 03-04-2011, 11:25

Has anybody had the discovery bar recommend any Sky content?

muppetman11 · 03-04-2011, 11:28

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Originally Posted by Joedm45

Unfortunately if using the apps you can't watch TV at the same time.

Having watched the vid, the app graphics cuts off the picture which is a bit strange. Would of thought they'd do a picture in picture.

The sidebar like in the link I've posted seems a better option , I'm sure Samsung connected TV's do this as well. I thought that was the point of social integration.

Joedm45 · 03-04-2011, 11:36

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Originally Posted by Doz007

Has anybody had the discovery bar recommend any Sky content?

Just had a look and yes, there is some Sky content on there. Examples being Cougar Town (Sky Living) and Hawaii Five-O (Sky 1)

On another note, if you select one of the shows on the discovery bar and go to set a series link, the set up graphics stay in the HD UI as opposed to the poor looking SD graphics when you set a link up through the EPG.

This annoys me even more now as the code to do this in the HD UI is already written, they just need to transfer it over to the EPG