Football The Scottish Football Thread - Page 40

colin25 · 10-07-2013, 05:32

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Originally Posted by Derek

Fixed that for you...

Club9 are absolute shysters. They make Craig Whyte look like a fine, upstanding businessman. If they get control I'd imagine at the very least every season ticket bought will be a very expensive flick book.

I see you are still trying to deflect the shame that Rangers brought to football (not just scottish football)

Bitter and blue seems more like bitter and 'itchy

Derek · 10-07-2013, 08:58

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Originally Posted by LondonRoad

If you're trying to look for similarities to what happened to Rangers (RIP) last year, then there are quite significant differences.

Yes. For a start Rangers were quite possibly the victims of criminal acts in their purchase, they were run into the ground by a man who the SFA and SPL were warned about numerous times yet did nothing to stop and were put in administration and had a CVA rejected on the basis of a tax bill that didn't actually exist. Hertz were just mismanaged and the plaything of an owner who got bored and threw them away.

When they rose again, as the same club according to the SFA, UEFA, FIFA and everyone else who has an opinion that actually matters, they play in the same stadium, in the same colours, with the same history.

Hertz probably won't have that. Tynecastle has a greater property value alone than what's being offered and the finances and holdings are remarkably complex. If the only current bidders to break cover and declare what they have money wise are club9 things look very bleak for them.

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Originally Posted by colin25

I see you are still trying to deflect the shame that Rangers brought to football (not just scottish football)

No I'm trying to make a serious point. Hertz are in the brown stuff very, very badly and the powers that be are sticking their heads in the sand. They already ignored them being insolvent and let Dundeeget relegated and now there is the very real chance of them going out of business mid season. That's before the £50,000 fine for going into administration BTW.

If they follow the precedent set by Rangers (same club according to everyone except the obsessed) then they will have to be demoted to the lowest league. How will that work when games have already been played?

LondonRoad · 10-07-2013, 09:19

I'd love to see the evidence that UEFA and FIFA recognise this tribute act as the same club.

Only those with a vested interest claim this is the case. You keep listening to the spivs and donating you money and they'll keep telling you anything you want to hear.

Meantime in the real world the incorporated Club was liquidated last year.... not the holding Company.

colin25 · 10-07-2013, 16:45

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Originally Posted by Derek

Yes. For a start Rangers were quite possibly the victims of criminal acts in their purchase, they were run into the ground by a man who the SFA and SPL were warned about numerous times yet did nothing to stop and were put in administration and had a CVA rejected on the basis of a tax bill that didn't actually exist. Hertz were just mismanaged and the plaything of an owner who got bored and threw them away.

When they rose again, as the same club according to the SFA, UEFA, FIFA and everyone else who has an opinion that actually matters, they play in the same stadium, in the same colours, with the same history.

Hertz probably won't have that. Tynecastle has a greater property value alone than what's being offered and the finances and holdings are remarkably complex. If the only current bidders to break cover and declare what they have money wise are club9 things look very bleak for them.

No I'm trying to make a serious point. Hertz are in the brown stuff very, very badly and the powers that be are sticking their heads in the sand. They already ignored them being insolvent and let Dundeeget relegated and now there is the very real chance of them going out of business mid season. That's before the £50,000 fine for going into administration BTW.

If they follow the precedent set by Rangers (same club according to everyone except the obsessed) then they will have to be demoted to the lowest league. How will that work when games have already been played?

If you refer to hearts as Hertz, then you should have no problem with rangers being referred to as newco, at least that is accurate.

As to the rest of your post, pretty pointless, see no reason to try and discuss with you. Your delusions will not go away despite the evidence.

Henkesghost · 18-07-2013, 20:25

St Johnstone win 1-0 away at Rosenborg in Europa League. Fantastic result

colin25 · 18-07-2013, 20:27

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost

St Johnstone win 1-0 away at Rosenborg in Europa League. Fantastic result

Yes, good for them

LondonRoad · 18-07-2013, 21:48

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost

St Johnstone win 1-0 away at Rosenborg in Europa League. Fantastic result

It's Armageddon I tell you, Armageddon!!!

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Well done to the men from Perth.

Henkesghost · 20-07-2013, 18:23

Derek · 20-07-2013, 18:54

http://news.stv.tv/west-central/2335...re-coach-yard/

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A fire which tore through the Lanarkshire coach yard that houses Rangers FC team buses 'was set deliberately', police have confirmed.

Arson, one of the worlds funnier crimes...

Henkesghost · 20-07-2013, 19:13

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Originally Posted by Derek

http://news.stv.tv/west-central/2335...re-coach-yard/

Arson, one of the worlds funnier crimes...

Insurance job? Heard the money's gone again

Oh and that's a genuine question.

Derek · 20-07-2013, 22:36

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost

Insurance job? Heard the money's gone again

Oh and that's a genuine question.

Obsessed, I forgot being a celtic fan automatically makes you a financial and tax expert. I thought Rangers were going into administration already according to you. We are living quite comfortably within our means.

Any comment to make on your fans disgracing themselves (again) by mocking the murder of Lee Rigby today?

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Originally Posted by Brentford FC Forum

I'm just back & struggling to contain the anger at what went on today. Our visitors sang songs celebrating the murder of drummer Lee Rigby, fights were provoked from early AM, balaclavas were worn, Provo flags and IRA chants continued throughout the game, multiple pitch invasions and finally Bees fans forced to take protection into their own hands thanks to the useless stewards and police. Celtic fans tried to smash the Brook rd goal and set off the sprinklers. I have seen harder firms than this lot over the years but never such a mass of prehistoric knuckle dragging sub humans with so little respect for others.

Bees fans should take credit for their restraint and for not aping this tribe of morons intent on causing grief. That said the highlight of the day was seeing a bees fan chase one of these clowns back to the way end when he invaded the pitch making sectarian gestures after their 1st goal - 100 metres in under 10 seconds!

Henkesghost · 20-07-2013, 22:43

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Originally Posted by Derek

Obsessed, I forgot being a celtic fan automatically makes you a financial and tax expert. I thought Rangers were going into administration already according to you. We are living quite comfortably within our means.

Any comment to make on your fans disgracing themselves (again) by mocking the murder of Lee Rigby today?

You sad little man, right up there with the Islam CSC thing you tried to create and embarrassed yourselves with at the Cup final. Sick that you lot should even try to start a rumour like that

Disgusting actually

How you are allowed to moderate on this forum is beyond me

@joebhoy2412 Celtic fans were class today I had my Brentford shirt on and walking through the crowds and they put arms around me great ppl

Derek · 20-07-2013, 22:51

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost

You sad little man, right up there with the Islam CSC thing you embarrassed yourselves with at the Cup final. Sick that you lot should even try to start a rumour like that

Sick actually

@joebhoy2412 Celtic fans were class today I had my Brentford shirt on and walking through the crowds and they put arms around me great ppl

Oh really? Starting a rumour? Several people have confirmed it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/seaniemc1...70613713010688

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Some so called Celtic fans have shamed themselves today singing about drummer Rigby. #hangyourheadsinshame

And from a green brigade forum.

http://twitter.com/roadrunner_83/sta...779586/photo/1

So I take it you are denying any of the visiting fans were chanting about his murder?

Henkesghost · 20-07-2013, 22:58

Twitter ha ha ha really, u believe twitter posters? 100 % deny the mention of that guys name in any song. Pm me what the song was, the poster that started this rumour cannot do so, I wonder why

Your own sites have removed the thread. Absolutely sick and you are a policeman? Wow. Have requested putting you on ignore before but by all accounts I can't. Brentford's own manager and players praised the Celtic fans. Maybe you should look that up instead of the sickos that frequent twitter

Are u really so thick that u dont know rogue posters don't post on other fans sites? Bet you were on here bangin on about the Islam CSC thing you made a fool of yourselves over too, guess what that was all over twitter too

I will take the ban for saying it, u r a disgrace. I work with the army get yourself to eff

Derek · 21-07-2013, 00:08

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost

Are u really so thick that u dont know rogue posters don't post on other fans sites? Bet you were on here bangin on about the Islam CSC thing you made a fool of yourselves over too, guess what that was all over twitter too

I will take the ban for saying it, u r a disgrace. I work with the army get yourself to eff

I asked a simple question, if you had any comment on an alleged incident, and you've gone off on one accusing me of all sorts.

The original post on a Brentford forum was from a member with over 1000 posts going back several years, hardly a plant. The twitter account is from someone with almost 2500 tweets mostly celtic related embarrassed by the actions of some fans.
A number of other people have confirmed it with a number of others denying it happened.

You do seem to have great anger issues whenever someone points out that your team has a deeply unpleasant section of its support, who lets face it sing about the murder of British soldiers on a regular basis, and jump back to the the "I work for the army' excuse.

Anyway this is going way off topic. I'm sure if this happened then footage of it will appear soon enough. You can get back to posting about Rangers.